Walther PPS or S&W M&P45c

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Old January 13th, 2009, 05:42 AM   #1
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Need some pros and cons on both please. At the moment im leaning toward the 45c and we all know why?
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Old January 13th, 2009, 06:42 AM   #2
 
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Need some pros and cons on both please. At the moment im leaning toward the 45c and we all know why?


Without a doubt and with zero hesitation, get the MP45c. I tried two PPS' pistols, one in 9mm and the other in .40 S&W. The .40 S&W was a jammomatic and I didn't keep the 9mm long enough to see how reliable it truly was. The MP45c is a dream to shoot. I have since given up on the mouse guns and the smallest pistol that I'll carry is either an MP9c/MP40c, or a Glock 19/23. If I need something for more discreet carry, then I'll carry one of my J-frames.



Just my .02. Also, check over on ppstalk or waltherforum for the latest user perspective regarding the PPS.
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Old January 13th, 2009, 07:29 AM   #3
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Basically the PPS is smaller and only comes in 9mm and 40 caliber. The MP 45c is heavier but much more dependable, IMHO. Both have great warranties and a rebate program by S & W.



Specs from S & W site. (no specs there on the 45c for some reason)



SKU: WAP10001

Model-: PPS

Caliber-: 9mm

Length: 6.3"

Height: 4.4"

Overall Width/Width without slidestop lever and takedown buttons: 1.04"/.91"

Barrel Length: 3.2"

Sight Radius: 5.4"

Weight (without Mag): 19.4 oz.

Standard Magazine Weight: 1.9 oz.

Action: Striker Fire Action, Pre-Cocked

Trigger Pull: 6.1 lbs.

Frame: Black Polymer





Reviews from GunBlast.com





http://www.gunblast.com/SW-MP45Compact.htm



http://www.gunblast.com/SW_MPCompact.htm
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Old January 13th, 2009, 05:54 PM   #4
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Nevermind i'm getting a S&W MOE
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:10 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by mattAL21' post='181332' date='Jan 14 2009, 02:54 AM
Nevermind i'm getting a S&W MOE


I would not rush to the 45c so fast my pps has been great. Some of the early ones just like the M&P had problems but like the M&P they have been worked out. I would question those who start there reply with I had both the 40 and 9. The size difference is woth a second look. I carry mine in a Fist combination leather holster. Quite happy.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 11:21 AM   #6
 
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Trying to compare a PPS to a 45c is apples vs. citrus fruit IMHO.



Compare guns of the same caliber and preferably similar capacity if you want to draw valid conclusions. Compare the 45c to other 45s.



FWIW, I too was curious about the PPS before I bought my 9c because it's so thin and concealable. But it was just too slab-sided and sharp-edged for me. Very uncomfortable to hold, and the trigger on the one I tried was atrocious.



The only real advantage of the PPS over the M&P 9c is thinness, and the difference in my opinion was not great enough to tip the scales towards a much more expensive, much less ergonomic, much uglier gun with a much worse trigger.



I'd still like a thinner carry piece, though. If S&W did come out with a single-stack M&P 9 compact I'd seriously consider it. I really doubt that'll happen.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 12:40 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by mattAL21' post='181332' date='Jan 13 2009, 07:54 PM
Nevermind i'm getting a S&W MOE




Matt, I was worried if you weren't right in the head for asking a question like that on a purely M&P forum...







But I see you made the right choice.



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I considered the PPS for a slim nine and ended up with the Kel Tec PF9 instead. Good little pistol for the money and I use it for a backup for my M&P 45c when I need something lighter.
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Originally Posted by mattAL21' post='181332' date='Jan 13 2009, 08:54 PM
Nevermind i'm getting a S&W MOE


S&W M&P15 MOE that is
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Old January 17th, 2009, 04:54 PM   #10
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S&W M&P15 MOE that is




The M&P 15 MOE has too long of a barrel to be carried concealed and it's only a 223, you need the stopping power of a 45 acp....



You will have a hard time finding a Cross Breed Super Tuck to fit that one.
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What is the intended use?

I am considering the PPS as a secondary CCW gun.

Mostly because of size.
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Old March 5th, 2009, 10:50 AM   #12
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The M&P 15 MOE has too long of a barrel to be carried concealed and it's only a 223, you need the stopping power of a 45 acp....



You will have a hard time finding a Cross Breed Super Tuck to fit that one.


Lol. I think i can make do.
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Old March 14th, 2009, 07:26 AM   #13
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I just got a PPS yesterday, haven't shot it yet obviously.



I am going to do some serious comparisons between it and my 9c in the coming weeks/months. I'll keep you guys posted on my observations/opinions.
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