Percieved Recoil - S&W Bodyguard 380 vs. Sig Sauer P238

This is a discussion on Percieved Recoil - S&W Bodyguard 380 vs. Sig Sauer P238 within the Autoloaders forums, part of the Armory category; A few weeks back I purchased the S&W Bodyguard 380...then I followed up with a Sig Sauer P238 a week later (and before you gun ...


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Old August 17th, 2011, 07:04 AM   #1
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A few weeks back I purchased the S&W Bodyguard 380...then I followed up with a Sig Sauer P238 a week later (and before you gun nuts ask why I bought both...do you really need to ask? ). I took both to the range this past weekend with my son in tow for a impromptu comparison shoot.



We put 150 rounds of Remington Green/White box fmj through both. Both performed flawlessly, and both are accurate, given that one is DAO with a long/heavy trigger pull while the other is SA with a blessedly short/light trigger pull by comparison.



But, I digress. My question is, per the topic title...why the difference in percieved recoil? The Smith is snappy and harsh, while the Sig is truly a pleasure to shoot.



According to their respective websites, the P238 weighs 15.2 oz, while the BG380 weighs 11.85 oz. Holding them in my hand, mags loaded and inserted, I can't really tell that much difference. Does 3-1/3 oz make THAT much difference? Is it the combination of weight and whatever small difference there is in the recoil operation?



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Old August 17th, 2011, 08:13 AM   #2
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3 1/3 oz. may seem so little that you ask yourself, "How can 3 oz. make a difference?". Well, my uncle and I just had this conversation on the Kel-Tec PF9 and the LC9. If you think about it (and my math is correct) 3 1/3 oz. is a 22% increase in weight. So while on paper it looks like such a small difference it is actually significant.



The other thing could be the design of the pistol. The P238 looks like it has a much higher bore axis. JMO. Happy Shooting! -Dirvo-
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Makes sense to me...put in that perspective. The P238 is so much more fun to shoot. It's picky about ammo though. JHP's and Flat-nosed FMJ's will NOT feed or eject at all. Once I've put a few hundred more rounds through it, and do a polish job on it I'll see if it'll feed them then... The BG380 eats anything I put through it. I've put 250 rounds of FMJ, 50 JHP, and 50 Flat-nose through it with zero FTF or FTE. The laser's a waste of space and the sights are awful compared to the P238's though. I have the detachable laser for the P238 and it is better all around, easier to actuate, and the lens does not get as fouled with powder residue. Hmmmm, I think I might be a tad biased.
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I guess you might be biased paying almost or more than twice as much for the Sig as the M&P!!!

I guess you might be biased paying almost or more than twice as much for the Sig as the M&P!!!
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I guess you might be biased paying almost or more than twice as much for the Sig as the M&P!!!


What M&P? I thought he was bashing the BG380.



Just to summarize: Your BG380 has better ergonomics, eats anything and costs nearly 1/2 as much at retail (with laser). The other one weights 30% more, breaks the bank, and can't actually shoot SD ammo. What was that question again?
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What M&P? I thought he was bashing the BG380.



Just to summarize: Your BG380 eats anything and costs 1/2 as much. The other one weights more, breaks the bank, and can't actually shoot SD ammo. What was that question again?


BG380 - $400

P238 - $549



Not quite twice as much.



I'm not bashing the BG380, I merely hinted that I might be biased toward the P238... Ergonomically, the BG380 is superior to the P238. It has had no failures. It is lighter. The trigger breaks somewhere south of Australia. The P238 has superior sights, thumb safety and detachable laser. I shoot it better because I am accustomed to SA triggers. The FTF issue may or may not resolve with break-in and a good polishing. Remains to be seen. It may require 'smithing. Would not be the first firearm I have sent in for work.



Each has strengths, and weaknesses. This can be said of any firearm. But, my question was in reference to perceived recoil, as stated in the original post.
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I meant the Bodyguard. Anyway $400 for the BodyGuard seems a little high. Thought they were going for closer to $300.
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Old August 18th, 2011, 03:23 AM   #8
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I meant the Bodyguard. Anyway $400 for the BodyGuard seems a little high. Thought they were going for closer to $300.
I try to buy close to home, and support my LGS's when I can. Due to this, I did pay more for both of these, compared to some of the online prices I found.
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The cheapest I've found the BG 380 locally was for $360ish + 9% tax. I'd say $400 isn't too bad. Happy Shooting! -Dirvo-
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The cheapest I've found the BG 380 locally was for $360ish + 9% tax. I'd say $400 isn't too bad. Happy Shooting! -Dirvo-


What's the old saying...? Location, location, location. Thanks for the input on my question, btw...
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I just bought the Bodyguard 380 this past Mon for 319 at my LGS. Haven't got to shoot it yet..Saturday's the day!
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After owning a LCP and now just picked up a BG380, I would say the BG had less recoil than the LCP. I have shot a 238 and would say the BG is about the same. I was able to get a BG380 for $305.00, the gun shop was doing a moving sale and had all guns at 10% off.



Just holding a BG380 in a shop doesn't do this gun any justice. Shooting it is not all that bad.



Reasons to go with the BG380:

Actual sights

Ergos

Last round slide lock

Laser
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which p238 did you get? I was looking at the extreme due to the lip on the mag. feels better in my hand than most any other small 380
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which p238 did you get? I was looking at the extreme due to the lip on the mag. feels better in my hand than most any other small 380


I bought the Nitron version. I like the plain, unadorned look of it compared to some of the others that Sig offers.
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