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This is a discussion on 1911 virgin within the Autoloaders forums, part of the Armory category; Another vote for full size .45, without a full-length guide rod. Not necessary IMHO and makes takedown a little more complicated. The 1911 is a ...


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Old April 12th, 2014, 04:43 PM   #16
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Another vote for full size .45, without a full-length guide rod.
Not necessary IMHO and makes takedown a little more complicated.
The 1911 is a timeless classic and you can get a basic gun that shoots well and satisfies your itch for a 1911 or spend a ton of money on one that shoots probably way better than you can (nothing personal).

My one and only 1911 is a Ruger SR1911 and I'm very satisfied with it.
The SA Range Officer is a nice gun in both .45 and 9mm.
There are cheaper (but still good) 1911's that can be had for less but for around $700 (Ruger) or $750-800-is (SA) both are great 1911s.
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Old April 12th, 2014, 06:46 PM   #17
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If you are only going to have one 1911 make a 5" model. My recommendation for brands are economy Ruger SR1911. Mid price Dan Wesson or Les Baer, premium price Wilson Combat. Other good upper range choices include Nighthawk and Ed Brown. Springfield Armory makes good guns also.

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of my 1911s have been 5" and the other a Commander 4.25". I like them all but my favorite is a Dan Wesson Valor ( built before the factory fire).

I'm betting you will have more than one after your first.
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Old June 1st, 2014, 05:05 PM   #18
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WOW! This is all really good stuff! And very timely. I, too, am shopping for my first 1911. Been doing a WHOLE lot of research and reading. My mouth is salivating at the possibility of owning one of my own. The Springfield Range Officer is on my short list, but I have seen and read a lot of good reviews and articles about some of the $400.00~$500.00 Filipino versions with names like ATI, Armscor, Shooters Arms, Regent, Citadel and RIA. The Turkish Girsan also looks interesting, as well. I mean, heck...go to Slick Guns. You can buy an ATI 1911 with iron sights for under $300.00 right now:
ATI FX45 Military SA 1911 Full Size 45ACP 5" Steel Black Wood 8rd Thumb Safety FS - $280 shipped after MIR | Slickguns

Hickok45 's review of the ATI is pretty doggone good as a matter of fact.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9GFFryTD7E

Question...These are, admittedly, "entrance to the class" weapons. But they seem to have a pretty good rep overall. It is really tempting. For a first 1911 is the $300.00 ATI worth it? The $400.00 Girsan? OR should I wait and go for something a little more "upscale?" And does it really matter as long a it works and is reliable?.....

Learned and experienced opinions wanted and valued, here .....

THX in advance, all ya all!
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 05:27 AM   #19
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As I said above, I would not buy one unless it has modern sights, the speed lever thumb safety, the ducktail grip safety, a stop in the trigger, the enlarged ejection port. Having a smith do all that work runs about $500, even tho it only takes him 3-4 hours (including reblueing) and you won't get an increased price when you sell it. So you lose $400 or more upon resale. Pay $100 more, perhaps, when you buy it, with all the goodies done on it, and you'll lose at most $100 when you sell it. Much better deal. Get a quality airsoft 1911 first, $125 or so, and a shooting timer app for your smart phone. It will save you 1000's of $ spent on ammo and range trips, you'll get good much more quickly. .22 conversion units help, too. they ship in the mail, they are not considered to be guns, cost $200. google for them. 22 ammo's not 5c a rd anymore, but it's still a lot cheaper than .45 ammo and it can be used places that the .45 cannot (especially with jacketed .45 ammo
Why have a smith add all that when most name brand modern 1911s already have it, unless hes buying a ww2 m1911 which I would not let anyone modify he really doesnt need to spend 500+ for a gunsmith. Ruger sr1911 which is one of the best most economical at under 700$ comes with most of the stuff you mentioned.
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 08:20 AM   #20
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I still want the AMT Hardballer to add to my collection.

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Old June 2nd, 2014, 03:26 PM   #21
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Wow I didn't realize this thread was still going!!
I ended up getting a....drum roll please...Ruger SR1911!
I gotta say, I love that gun! Granted, i don't have a track record with 1911s so I don't have anythong to compare it to, but it's sweet!
There's just something about holding that thing ready to fire that feels...right. Thanks for the input guys!
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 04:16 PM   #22
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If you are looking for a range gun, my vote is full size in 9mm. Long sight radius, longer barrel, low recoil and accurate.
+1 to everything said here. I also recommend a 5" full size gun and 9 mm is easy to shoot, accurate and much less expensive to reload for.

My only 1911 is a Les Baer full size in 9 mm and, yes, it was expensive but you only pay it once. The pleasure of owning and shooting it goes on for decades.
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I just bought the Ruger SR 1911 2 weeks ago and can't be happier with it. I went with the full size just because my M&P's are my carry guns, the 1911 was just to have because I wanted a 1911. I'm sure I'll use it for open carry while camping or hiking, and that just cause I don't have a .45 M&P yet. I like the idea of passing on a timeless gun to my children, so I guess I have that argument to convince my wife I need 3 more 1911s lol. Considering I bought my first handgun in March and now have 5 I'm gonna have to wait for Christmas now.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 05:09 PM   #24
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I also decided on the Ruger SR1911, but went with the Comander size. I've always wanted a 1911, love the history behind it. Everytime I field strip it I say to myself, "how the hell did they make this 100+ years ago". It's like an engineering marvel! It shoots great and I know I'll be able to pass it along to my son or daughter. Anyone have any opinions on the S&W 1911s? I felt like I betrayed my S&W family (M&P 9 Pro, M&P Compact 22 and soon to be added Shield 9MM once it arrives at the gun shop). At least they are all made in the USA.
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I also decided on the Ruger SR1911, but went with the Comander size. I've always wanted a 1911, love the history behind it. Everytime I field strip it I say to myself, "how the hell did they make this 100+ years ago". It's like an engineering marvel! It shoots great and I know I'll be able to pass it along to my son or daughter. Anyone have any opinions on the S&W 1911s? I felt like I betrayed my S&W family (M&P 9 Pro, M&P Compact 22 and soon to be added Shield 9MM once it arrives at the gun shop). At least they are all made in the USA.
I got a s&w 1911sc e series commander on the scandium frame, couldn't be happier. Was gonna buy a kimber but this Smith caught my eye and once it was in my hand I wasn't leaving the gun shop without it.
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I got a s&w 1911sc e series commander on the scandium frame, couldn't be happier. Was gonna buy a kimber but this Smith caught my eye and once it was in my hand I wasn't leaving the gun shop without it.
Is the one you bought the E series with the bobtail? If it is I'm very jealous!
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I got a s&w 1911sc e series commander on the scandium frame, couldn't be happier. Was gonna buy a kimber but this Smith caught my eye and once it was in my hand I wasn't leaving the gun shop without it.
Good to know. My dealer did have a S&W 1911, but had the 3" barrel, so I passed and got the Ruger. The price on the S&W was also a little more than I wanted to spend at the time. I think in 2015 I'll be adding a 5" S&W 1911 the the stable and possibly a revolver. It's nice having a job where you get commission, that way the wife doesn't get mad with me buying new handguns.
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Is the one you bought the E series with the bobtail? If it is I'm very jealous!
yes sir it sure is, i couldnt pass it up, used with 7 rounds through it, guy that bought it originally immediately had the feed ramp polished and shot 1 magazine through it and thought the recoil was a bit much so he was going to trade it in on a 5" kimber, I paid a hair more than half the retail on it. the guy was completely happy with the kimber he bought and I couldnt be happier with my purchase. I defiantly chose a good day to head to the gun club, we were all admiring this gun when he was picking it up from the gunsmith wishing we had 1, little did i know an hour later it would be mine.

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Here's mine, not as fancy as your S&W though 2k4mach. (not sure why I can't turn the picture. I'll blame it on the iPad)
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1911 virgin

Love that all stainless look. Can't go wrong with a ruger, every ruger I've owned hasn't disappointed me. I'm with you on adding a 5" 1911 to the stable next year, I'm already eyeing a s&w performance center 1911.

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