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Old August 20th, 2012, 11:13 AM   #1
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Students with CCW such a risk they must be segregated

University of Colorado says that the risk of injury to other students from students with CCW is so great they must be segregated to one dorm building where non CCW students will not be permitted to live according to news broadcast. Now everyone will know which students are armed.
Students with gun permits get segregated dorms at University of Colorado - U.S. News
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Old August 20th, 2012, 11:29 AM   #2
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I do not recall the school saying these students are a danger? I actually praise UoCO for taking the step and providing these students a place to say. Many Many schools outright ban weapons, at least the university is knowningly and intentionally allowing them to stay armed on Campus. Now there are wolves among the sheep in classes each day...

I wonder how many students that do NOT CCW will ask to live there knowing they have armed neighbors and thus a safer dorm?
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Old August 20th, 2012, 12:16 PM   #3
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The school official I heard on (I can't remember what station) said they felt there was a high risk to other students due to friends or other student finding the gun and having an accident happen. All guns will still need to be locked up every night. From what they indicated non CCW students will not be allowed to live in the same dorm with CCW students, again because it is too big a risk to others to be around the CCW students and their guns.
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Old August 20th, 2012, 01:47 PM   #4
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Sounds like good grounds for a discrimination law suit.
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Old August 20th, 2012, 03:00 PM   #5
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I'd like to see campus carry in WA.
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Old August 21st, 2012, 07:25 PM   #6
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Actually, this sounds like a very interesting experiment. Shall we lay some bets now about which dorm is quieter, safer and better behaved? Which one is less likely to have a violent attack perpetrated on it? Which dorm has fewer accidents? Have better grades and class attendance records?

Just as CCW permit holders [or licensed gun owners in Canada] are far _more_ law abiding and responsible than the average citizen, I suspect CCW university students are several cuts above the average university student. This regulation would help reveal it.
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We're likely to see students strive to meet the requirements of a CCW permit just for the right to be in these dorms. This could be the beginning of a powerful fraternity, known more for thier ability to achieve great things rather than thier penchant for sinking to the lowest denominator.

I pity the fools that won't be accepted.
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I'm with Token. It will be interesting to see how this pans out. I'd be willing to bet the results will show the CCW dorm to be less chaotic, more civilized, and safer, but I also expect the school administrators will spin it negatively. They just won't be able to handle the reality that their bias and warped worldview isn't supported by the facts on the ground.
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Actually, this sounds like a very interesting experiment. Shall we lay some bets now about which dorm is quieter, safer and better behaved? Which one is less likely to have a violent attack perpetrated on it? Which dorm has fewer accidents? Have better grades and class attendance records?

Just as CCW permit holders [or licensed gun owners in Canada] are far _more_ law abiding and responsible than the average citizen, I suspect CCW university students are several cuts above the average university student. This regulation would help reveal it.
Interesting point.
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Old August 7th, 2013, 04:20 AM   #10
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University of Colorado says that the risk of injury to other students from students with CCW is so great they must be segregated to one dorm building where non CCW students will not be permitted to live according to news broadcast. Now everyone will know which students are armed.
Students with gun permits get segregated dorms at University of Colorado - U.S. News
If I were a U Col student I'd want to be in that dorm. It will be the only safe place on campus from the next nutjob.

Query though - how would the university know? As we say in Texas, "concealed means concealed."
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Old August 7th, 2013, 02:04 PM   #11
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It's true that Colorado law prohibits a database of permit holders. A couple of sheriffs got in trouble when our new CHP law was passed for just such an infraction, and some of them were even adding the information to the database upon which police run checks for traffic stops. So there's no "legal" way the University would know, unless the permit holders volunteer the information.

The University of Colorado has tried all sorts of legal trickery to get around the state law concerning concealed carry. This is just the latest.


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Old August 7th, 2013, 03:52 PM   #12
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In this case, I would not want to live in that dorm. Everyone on campus would know that is the "gun dorm" and I wouldn't want everyone on campus to see that I was there. It's basically a giant billboard saying, "He/she has a gun!".
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That's a damned shame. CCW should be a non issue at college campuses. At the college I went to, one of our roads/pathways was actually nicknamed Rape Trail. The thought of going there alone without protection is absolutely implausible.
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It's been a year since the original post. How has it worked out?

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