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Old July 2nd, 2015, 07:45 PM   #1
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CCW Laws frustration (NY)

I had a *discussion* with a friend of mine who owns/operates a brew pub. After I mentioned the C word (Cuomo) and said he should be shot because he keeps taking away my rights and I hate that.

First mistake and lesson learned. No public talk about guns. (permit since 97 and ccw since 13)

Anyway, she commented that shes glad NY does not have a carry permit for bars. Well it does if it's a fully restricted CCW only to my knowledge. What I was told was no schools or municipalities. (yes I know NYC)

The downside is I can't find the document from earlier this year that was very clear about where you can carry! NY keeps making it so you can't find any info at all and the local county is no help..... but the restricted law states you can't carry in any place that

I just wish they would be straight with the laws. (yes I know NYC)

The local law for a "restricted permit" says "no carry or display in a place that is licensed to sell alcohol" (paraphrased from http://www.gobroomecounty.com/files/...pplication.pdf )

Anyway, I'm just sharing frustration of laws not clear and a bar (from training) is not one. But they think from the rules provided that I can't carry.

FWIW, if I carry I won't drink and if I know (say Fridays when I have 2 beers at lunch at my friends brew pub) I won't carry.

Government really needs a reality check and make things clear, not foggy which is what I told them it was.

*not to self, don't talk about guns* people might act stupid.

I want to follow the law but if it's not clear/searchable...
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Old July 3rd, 2015, 06:05 AM   #2
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Can't carry in a bar (or the part of a restaurant that serves alcohol) down here.

Does NY have any online info?
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Old July 4th, 2015, 05:18 AM   #3
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It appears NY makes the laws convoluted on purpose in order to either trap unwitting people or scare others into not exercising their rights for fear of running up against some obscure aspect of the law.
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I'm still working on it. I'm going to email the person that ran the defense course that I took in order to get my CCW and ask him.
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Old July 13th, 2015, 06:06 PM   #5
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I wouldn't expect anything different from NY. Come down south to VA, our laws are quite different and clearly stated.
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Old July 13th, 2015, 06:42 PM   #6
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I have only experienced NC concealed carry law. Our permits are good for 5 years. The sheriff of your county of residence is the local issuer of the permits. For the first permit one has to go through a concealed carry class and the required fingerprint check. My last renewal I did everything online including fee payment. Printed the required signature page to be signed in front of a notary at the sheriffs department.

The only thing is that you have to keep up with the CCW law changes. Our legislature usually refines the law every couple years or so....refinements are good so far.....allows carry in more places than before. And the concealed carry permit is good to purchase handguns in lieu of a pistol permit (the old way).
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Since this group of posts began, I've started to exercise my carry rights much more and have found very, very little official guidance on the where or when I'm allowed to be armed. When I first got my permit some 34 years ago, I didn't get a booklet or even a brochure to reference. I didn't think too much of that then but now there's a hyper attention to carried weapons I wanted to get the straight facts. Considering the internet now, you'd think that would be an easy research project but nada. All the county clerk website says is to contact local law authorities or a lawyer to find information.
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I had a *discussion* with a friend of mine who owns/operates a brew pub. After I mentioned the C word (Cuomo) and said he should be shot because he keeps taking away my rights and I hate that.

First mistake and lesson learned. No public talk about guns. (permit since 97 and ccw since 13)
Be very careful who you say to "he should be shot", especially about a public official or you could end up in trouble. The police agencies take all threats very seriously, whether or not you really mean it. It's a good way to lose your carry permit and maybe your firearms, among other things.
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Old October 10th, 2015, 02:19 PM   #9
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I wouldn't expect anything different from NY. Come down south to VA, our laws are quite different and clearly stated.
Another vote for VA, daughter and I OC all the time (shes not 21 and cant get CCW yet...).

OC at 18
CCW at 21

I dont drink outside the house, so I do either where ever I want, not had a problem yet...

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Old October 10th, 2015, 05:46 PM   #10
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No surprises since I always knew NYS was a restrictive state to own a protective weapon but with the advent of the information highway a person would think the full breath of restrictions would be out there for all to review. Not so. At least not plainly written.
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