Took my ccw class yesterday - MP-Pistol Forum

Took my ccw class yesterday

This is a discussion on Took my ccw class yesterday within the CCW forums, part of the Armory category; Took my ccw class yesterday I was pretty upset . My m&p has never had an issue I always maintain my weapons so I know ...


Go Back   MP-Pistol Forum > Armory > CCW

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old November 19th, 2015, 07:15 AM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: nevada
Posts: 20
Took my ccw class yesterday

Took my ccw class yesterday I was pretty upset . My m&p has never had an issue I always maintain my weapons so I know it was the ammo they provided that caused two malfunctions during the qualifications. I'm pretty sure my gun doesn't have an issue but I feel less certain now. I almost wanted to stop because I thought my gun was going to continue malfunctioning. But at least I passed.

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
miguelherrera4 is offline  
Old November 19th, 2015, 12:11 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
owinchell's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,302
Sorry, you experienced some problems during qualifying. But congrats on passing. Do you know the brand of ammo they were supplying?
owinchell is offline  
Old November 19th, 2015, 12:19 PM   #3
Junior Member
 
SmokeyJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9
Wow! I also am very interested to know what ammo you were using. The ONLY problem I have had was with some super cheap Russian ammo. My M&P 9mm (full-size) has shot everything else. It even shot stuff my Glock 19 wouldn't!
SmokeyJoe is offline  
 
Old November 19th, 2015, 03:11 PM   #4
Member
 
cola490's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by miguelherrera4 View Post
Took my ccw class yesterday I was pretty upset . My m&p has never had an issue I always maintain my weapons so I know it was the ammo they provided that caused two malfunctions during the qualifications. I'm pretty sure my gun doesn't have an issue but I feel less certain now. I almost wanted to stop because I thought my gun was going to continue malfunctioning. But at least I passed.

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
Did you have to use their ammo or could you bring your own?
cola490 is offline  
Old November 19th, 2015, 04:25 PM   #5
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: nevada
Posts: 20
They use some sort of 100% lead free frangible ammunition. It felt weird almost like ceramic. They don't allow any one to bring their own ammo so yes I had to use theirs . They said it was very "high tech" . My first malfunction was after about three rounds primer strike but nothing. The second one felt very weak and didn't eject but was very hard to rack but it did eject after I racked pretty hard. Checked for any barrel obstructions all was good. At this point I did a quick field strip and everything seemed fine. No malfunctions after but I felt I didn't do my best mostly because I wasn't sure if it'd happen again as this has never happened. I guess I gotta go out and shoot 500 flawless rounds of my own ammo to feel better again lol

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
miguelherrera4 is offline  
Old November 19th, 2015, 04:30 PM   #6
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: nevada
Posts: 20
I've shot the cheapest stuff I can find before at least 400 rounds and no issues. Everything I've gave it prior has had 100% reliability . I don't know about any of the other guys shooting there but my buddy went also, he has a canik tp9 and didn't have a single problem with the ammo. His was also oddly over oiled I noticed

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
miguelherrera4 is offline  
Old November 19th, 2015, 08:03 PM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Ohio
Posts: 170
Quote:
Originally Posted by miguelherrera4 View Post
Took my ccw class yesterday I was pretty upset . My m&p has never had an issue I always maintain my weapons so I know it was the ammo they provided that caused two malfunctions during the qualifications. I'm pretty sure my gun doesn't have an issue but I feel less certain now. I almost wanted to stop because I thought my gun was going to continue malfunctioning. But at least I passed.

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
Actually this is probably the best training you can get. Clearing malfunctions is an essential skill best practiced on the clock.

I read your further post about the supplied ammo. I would not worry about. Find and ammo that performs well in YOUR gun and prove it out. Also, do not oil the striker guide. That will cause light primer strikes.
lhawkins is online now  
Old November 20th, 2015, 01:29 AM   #8
Member
 
cola490's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by miguelherrera4 View Post
They use some sort of 100% lead free frangible ammunition. It felt weird almost like ceramic. They don't allow any one to bring their own ammo so yes I had to use theirs . They said it was very "high tech" . My first malfunction was after about three rounds primer strike but nothing. The second one felt very weak and didn't eject but was very hard to rack but it did eject after I racked pretty hard. Checked for any barrel obstructions all was good. At this point I did a quick field strip and everything seemed fine. No malfunctions after but I felt I didn't do my best mostly because I wasn't sure if it'd happen again as this has never happened. I guess I gotta go out and shoot 500 flawless rounds of my own ammo to feel better again lol

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
Is the requirement to use their ammo a state rule or is it a range thing?
cola490 is offline  
Old November 20th, 2015, 02:50 AM   #9
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: nevada
Posts: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by lhawkins View Post
Actually this is probably the best training you can get. Clearing malfunctions is an essential skill best practiced on the clock.

I read your further post about the supplied ammo. I would not worry about. Find and ammo that performs well in YOUR gun and prove it out. Also, do not oil the striker guide. That will cause light primer strikes.
I agree , I was upset because of the malfunctions but also immediately realized I needed much more training to feel competent with my firearm in case of an emergency. I always knew the importance of knowing how to clear a malfunction in that situation but never understood to a certain extent because it had never happened to me and was under the naive impression that mine was flawless and would never jam when I needed it to work. Not saying these guns tend to jam at all . But now I really see that anything mechanical can fail for any reason being that a small one as well. Really opened my eyes today. But thanks for your feedback

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
miguelherrera4 is offline  
Old November 20th, 2015, 02:53 AM   #10
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: nevada
Posts: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by lhawkins View Post
Actually this is probably the best training you can get. Clearing malfunctions is an essential skill best practiced on the clock.

I read your further post about the supplied ammo. I would not worry about. Find and ammo that performs well in YOUR gun and prove it out. Also, do not oil the striker guide. That will cause light primer strikes.
Oh and I never over oil my gun. Especially near the striker. My buddies was over oiled. And ran flawlessly was the only thing I noticed odd about his.

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
miguelherrera4 is offline  
Old November 20th, 2015, 02:57 AM   #11
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: nevada
Posts: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by cola490 View Post
Is the requirement to use their ammo a state rule or is it a range thing?
It's a range thing. It was the first gun range I'd seen that required it . Also it's a gun range in Vegas so they tend to over charge quite a bit. I mean I get that it's "lead free" even the primer had no traces of lead . But it was junk ammo to me. Haha

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
miguelherrera4 is offline  
Old November 20th, 2015, 03:23 AM   #12
Member
 
cola490's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by miguelherrera4 View Post
It's a range thing. It was the first gun range I'd seen that required it . Also it's a gun range in Vegas so they tend to over charge quite a bit. I mean I get that it's "lead free" even the primer had no traces of lead . But it was junk ammo to me. Haha

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
A little off topic, but what is the charge for the CC class and range qualification and the cost for the license?

Last edited by cola490; November 20th, 2015 at 03:26 AM.
cola490 is offline  
Old November 20th, 2015, 03:30 AM   #13
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: nevada
Posts: 20
Well for me in Nevada all classes are different the one I went to was usually 100$ but they had it free the day I went just had to pay 40$ for ammo. And going to get the permit nd fingerprints was 98.25 at metro so all together I paid about 139 but normally I would have paid about 240$ but it's different everywhere

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
miguelherrera4 is offline  
Old November 20th, 2015, 03:37 AM   #14
Member
 
cola490's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 83
Here in Illinois we got cc about 2 years ago. The cost for the class at the time was $300.00 if you needed the full 16 hours, some prior training was accepted for 8 hours. The cost for the application was and is $150.00 and about $50.00 if you want to submit prints. Prints are not required but it will shorten the time by about 2 months or so.
The license is for 5 years.
cola490 is offline  
Old November 20th, 2015, 04:27 AM   #15
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: nevada
Posts: 20
Oh wow. And I thought the 9 hours I did was wayy long. Haha ya fingerprint is required here. And wait time is 4 months max . My cousin just did Florida and it was only a 3 hour class .

Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk
miguelherrera4 is offline  
Reply

  MP-Pistol Forum > Armory > CCW

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Got that M&P .22 yesterday M1A4ME MP Full Size Pistols 20 November 2nd, 2014 01:54 PM
New M&P 9 FS came in yesterday kpagratis MP Full Size Pistols 3 June 24th, 2009 04:32 PM
Got my mags yesterday jdc48160 MP Talk 2 April 24th, 2008 05:00 PM
got my 9c yesterday blackman MP Compact Pistols 2 April 12th, 2008 10:02 PM
Picked-up my M&P yesterday! dino92g MP Full Size Pistols 5 December 7th, 2007 12:37 PM



Powered by vBulletin 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 2006-2012 MP-Pistol. All rights reserved.
MP-Pistol is a M&P pistol enthusiast forum, but it is in no way affiliated with, nor does it represent Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. of Springfield, MA.