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Old September 15th, 2013, 02:55 PM   #1
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M&P CORE and IDPA

I know you can's shoot the CORE with a red dot sight on it in IDPA but can I install the top cap where the optics go and shoot it in SSP like a regular Pro Series? I want to have the red dot option for home defense and target shooting.
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Old September 16th, 2013, 06:30 AM   #2
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Got me. You can't have optics like that in IDPA (IIRC) but if you can't use them I don't know.

I'm sure in local club matches no one would care.
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I don't see why not. As long as your weapon meets all the other requirements of the category. I will prob be shooting mine in USPSA Limited.


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While we are on IDPA rules, is my Apex FSS trigger kit legal since it replaces the original trigger?
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Old September 16th, 2013, 08:50 AM   #5
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While we are on IDPA rules, is my Apex FSS trigger kit legal since it replaces the original trigger?
I think it depends on the division. You can't have external trigger mods in Stock Service Pistol like the FSS. Believe me I would love to trick out my M&P with an FFS a Trijicon RMR for competition.
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I know you can's shoot the CORE with a red dot sight on it in IDPA but can I install the top cap where the optics go and shoot it in SSP like a regular Pro Series.
The C.O.R.E.'s suppressor sights are more difficult to win with. I haven't checked the 2013 IDPA rule book, but they might not allow it at a championship match, yet... Move to USPSA Open Class and you can leave the MRDS on there.


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While we are on IDPA rules, is my Apex FSS trigger kit legal since it replaces the original trigger?
Visible trigger modification bumps you up to ESP.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 07:37 AM   #7
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Come Oct. 1 you can use the CORE with a dot according to the new rules. It just falls under the following competition category and can only be used at local matches.

8.2.7. Not For Competition
8.2.7.1. IDPA encourages shooters to practice their gun handling skills with commonly carried firearms. Many everyday carry firearms do not fit into the 5 competition divisions.
8.2.7.2. IDPA allows clubs to add a “Not for Competition” scoring division for Tier 1 matches only. This allows calibers smaller than 9mm, carry optics, and other pistols which do not fit into the 5 competition divisions to participate in local club matches.
8.2.7.3. All other IDPA equipment rules apply for holsters and loading device holders as well as their placement on the body. Match Directors also have the option to allow junior shooters with .22 rimfire firearms to begin strings at low ready in lieu of requiring a holster.
8.2.7.4. All IDPA membership rules apply.
8.2.7.5. Clubs are not required to implement this provision, and Match Directors are allowed discretion with implementation so that match quality remains high.
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I think you would be able to.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 02:07 PM   #9
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It's already on the approved list for USPSA. The IDPA rule books says any notch and post sights so without the Red Dot it should be good for SSP division. I may just put in an Apex FSS and red dot and use it for something else.


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It's already on the approved list for USPSA. The IDPA rule books says any notch and post sights so without the Red Dot it should be good for SSP division. I may just put in an Apex FSS and red dot and use it for something else.


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It's after October 1, so the new IDPA rules apply.

WITH optics, you are shooting NOT-FOR-COMPETITION (8.2.7) in IDPA.

In USPSA, you are in Open Division. All well and good if you're just out to have fun and practice with your gun, but don't expect to be competitive against decent quality Open Division shooters.

Add a threaded barrel and a comp, add a mag-well and a 170mm (+10) magazine extension, do extensive trigger work with an Apex FSS and light springs to drop you down in the 2-3lb range, add a non-captured guide-rod and lighter recoil spring, and then reload your own 9mm up to 165+ Power Factor (a 125gr bullet over 1320 ft/sec!!!).... Add a skeleton-rig holster, and 2 more high-cap mags. Then toss in 2-3 years of experience... and you can be competitive. The gun and mags alone with optic will be around $2000-$2300.

Enjoy!

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Add a threaded barrel and a comp, add a mag-well and a 170mm (+10) magazine extension, do extensive trigger work with an Apex FSS and light springs to drop you down in the 2-3lb range, add a non-captured guide-rod and lighter recoil spring, and then reload your own 9mm up to 165+ Power Factor (a 125gr bullet over 1320 ft/sec!!!).... Add a skeleton-rig holster, and 2 more high-cap mags. Then toss in 2-3 years of experience...
What about the natural talent? No matter how much you spend on the pistol, you can't win without a healthy dose of natural talent.
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What about the natural talent? No matter how much you spend on the pistol, you can't win without a healthy dose of natural talent.
Good point. I am just doing IDPA as an adjunct to training classes. I'm not a gamer. I am going to shoot my bone stock Sig P226 because that's what I have been training with and shoot best. I got my M&P CORE and shot it for the first time yesterday. I was all over the place with it. I need a lot of trigger time on it to get used to it. When I has a Pro Series with the FSS trigger two years ago I liked how it shot.


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If you roll over to the open class, powder is the key! And hard to find! So get a chrono and be prepared. To work up different loads with various powders. Where I am at its tuff to find open class powder, I have worked up a major load with power pistol and its safe no pressure signs.

I have omly 1lb autocomp, hs6, and under a lb of 3n37.... But have bulk PP coming.

Good Luck!!
Good thing steel has no power factor so any thing can work for that!
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The gun as it comes from thr factory is IDPA legal and can be shot in either SSP or ESP at the shooters option. Install a FSS trigger and you are ok for ESP. The modification is an external mod so it cannot play in SSP.

Go to idpa.com and you can read the equipment rules.

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Old October 2nd, 2014, 03:17 PM   #15
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What about the natural talent? No matter how much you spend on the pistol, you can't win without a healthy dose of natural talent.
Talent you mean I need that too! Here I thought all we had to do was buy the right gun and go win.

I know it would be a bummer on the gun companies but I suspect most of us would be better off with a stock (You name the gun) and just go play for fun. Instead I have 16 handguns, of which I shoot one or the other searching for the magic golden gun that will whisk me away into the land of Vogeland, Mink, and Tyc. Instead I languish with the wannabees in C Class waiting for a set of talent genes to descend on me.

Ah but for ego...

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ps A lot of reverse ageing would help as well.
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