This is a discussion on handgun mounted light within the Knife and Light forums, part of the Armory category; I have been looking at a streamlight TLR-1 to mount on my 45 fs. Dose anyone have any input on these or the surefire? Thanks!...
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|February 1st, 2009, 05:53 AM||#1|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somerset, Ky
I have been looking at a streamlight TLR-1 to mount on my 45 fs. Dose anyone have any input on these or the surefire? Thanks!
|February 1st, 2009, 08:46 AM||#2|
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Rockville, MD
The TLR-1 is a good, simple, inexpensive light.
The Surefire is an excellent, robust, expensive light.
Personally, I use an Insight Procyon. It's bright and the strobe feature is outstanding. It's more expensive than a TLR-1 but less expensive than the Surefire lights.
|February 1st, 2009, 09:14 AM||#3|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Southwest Oklahoma
+1 Insight Procyon
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|February 1st, 2009, 09:38 AM||#4|
Join Date: Oct 2007
I chose the Procyon also after seeing a video that ToddG posted and reading his recommendation. I don't have a holster to carry it in but combined with the Crimson Trace Lasergrips it makes a great HD piece. I carry a Fenix P3D Q5 flashlight, it's brighter but the strobe function is nearly identical.
|February 1st, 2009, 10:06 AM||#5|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Erath County, Texas
I have several Surefire X200s and an X300. Have never used a TLR-1, but have handled one. I've had excellent service from the Surefires.
I recommend that you look at the switching options on the lights that you're considering. If you're going to use the light for home defense/carry, then I advise getting the light with the most intuitive switching (most intuitive for you, not necessarily anyone else). That would be one less thing to go wrong in a high-stress situation. For me the Surefire switches are more intuitive; just push forward to momentarily turn it on, or better yet add a remote switch (DG series) that allows a normal grip to activate the light without having to remember to reach forward to activate the light.
I looked at the TLR-1/TLR-2 series but rejected it because there is no remote switch available that is well-suited to handguns.
The M3/M6/M6x series have a handgun-dedicated remote switch available, but those lights use incandescent bulbs not LEDs. Bulbs break in hard service; LEDs are more durable.
|February 3rd, 2009, 05:16 PM||#8|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Torrington, CT
Insight WX150. Just ordered one yesterday @ my range. The owner had a demo on the counter, 150 lumens and the strobe will make you sick to your stomach! $169 but I found them online for $140
|February 5th, 2009, 10:50 PM||#9|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Before you get too excited over the tape type remote switches, price a replacement. I about had a heart attack when I replaced the tape type switch on the light on my 11-87. The switch alone was $70! Granted I got quite a few years service from the original, the switch cost more than the rest of the light!
The light bulb life thing is a good point, but it's generally not an issue except for heat buildup if you leave the light on for any reason. Back in the early 1990s I put a Sure-Fire on an 11-87 and bought a couple of spare bulbs. Despite several schools where I launched quite a few slugs and the passage of lo, many years, I'm still on the original bulb.
Besides heat buildup, LEDs can stretch the battery life quite a bit over bulbs. I probably wouldn't buy a light with a bulb in it now unless the prices were real attractive. However, consider that the major factor in the price of LED lights is the cost of the electronics that run the LED. Look at truck/trailer tail lights as an example. An 1157 light bulb is a couple of bucks. A new LED light is running close to $40.
|February 5th, 2009, 11:03 PM||#10|
Join Date: Apr 2008
If you haven't ordered from them, you may want to reconsider. They should be known as Botched Tactical. Look at the feedback here after the "stickies". http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=2&f=322
They also botched my order for mags.
|March 2nd, 2009, 11:58 PM||#11|
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Oak Grove, KY
Our local Cool Guy Surefire rep let us borrow his demo X400 while he's out of town teaching some high speed dudes how to do bad things to bad people. That light is bad ass. I don't generally think much of light and laser combos, but SF's laser is so dang bright I think I'm gonna have to have one.
|March 3rd, 2009, 12:13 AM||#12|
Join Date: Dec 2008
whats this vid you speak of?
|March 3rd, 2009, 08:18 AM||#13|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Agree. They totally screwed up my order for a light and shotgun mount for my 870. Didn't answer the phone, didn't respond to left messages...a total nightmare. I did manage to finally cancel the whole thing successfully.
They also took THREE WEEKS to respond to an email. Their response indicated that they were unaware that I'd cancelled the order over the phone.
A bunch of clowns IMHO. Go elsewhere.
|March 4th, 2009, 12:29 PM||#14|
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Oak Grove, KY
I placed one order with Botach. It took them two weeks to contact me and tell me they didn't have what I ordered in stock. I changed color choices on one piece they did have in stock, and canceled the rest. Never ordered again, but quite a long time later I received a box from them with my name on the label. I opened it and found stuff I didn't order. The invoice had the real customer's name and e-mail address on it, so I contacted him. He said he'd been waiting three months for it, and said he'd contact Botach to get it straight. He sent me an e-mail a couple days later and said "they're resending my order. Please contact Joe This Guy and he'll arrange to send a call tag for the box to return it to them." I was on hold for about a half hour, surfing the 'net while I waited for them to come back to the phone. Joe This Guy picks up the phone, gets my info and says "Call tag's comin' in the next couple days". About ten days later, original purchaser gets his replacement order. The call tag never came. It amazes me that those guys are still open.
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