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Old September 8th, 2008, 06:10 PM   #16
 
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The Level 1, 2, 3, etc., are marketing tools for Safariland. Don't assume that there is an industry standard when it comes to "what level" holster you have.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 06:59 AM   #17
 
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My current holster is the Safariland 6360. I always used the 070 and with practice, I was never slower than others with level 1 holsters. Then came the rail mounted lights and the 6280 was the way to go. Without the "hood" protector over the button, you have to be careful that the side of your vest doesn't push it out of the way. Then came the 6360. I can't get used to the plastic hood protector, but at least the pistol has a little bit of self locking as soon as you holster up...
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Old September 26th, 2008, 01:16 AM   #18
 
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6360-- minus that hood shield.

with it on I cant do weak/other hand draws-- just in case
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Old November 1st, 2008, 04:20 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by Kilroy' post='163734' date='Sep 8 2008, 10:10 PM
The Level 1, 2, 3, etc., are marketing tools for Safariland. Don't assume that there is an industry standard when it comes to "what level" holster you have.


You are correct about there not being an "industry standard" when it comes to retention levels. However, I don't think that you will find any other holster maker defining the retention levels the way Safariland does. I'd trust a Safariland level 2 holster over pretty much anybody elses Level 3.



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Old November 24th, 2008, 04:53 AM   #20
 
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I really like the Safariland 6365, minus the hood guard.
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Old February 9th, 2009, 08:30 PM   #21
 
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Originally Posted by Mike193Inf' post='161901' date='Aug 28 2008, 08:22 PM
Fine do whatever you want....



For all the Serpa haters here's some anecdotal evidence- 28 officers- 2 years use- qualify every 3 months- zero malfunctions/accidents/problems with Serpas. Trigger finger position to unlock a Serpa allows perfect indexing along side of frame rather than some POs who get jumpy and jam that trigger finger straight into that trigger guard with conventional holsters and blow toes off. That's why Serpa was designed that way. Main advantage- VERY fast. They're fairly cheap compared to all the leather stuff- try one out for a range holster or off duty. They're not a cheesy Fobus/Uncle Mike's Kydex or anything like that.




I may very well eat crow with this one; I didnt realize that BH had duty serpa stuff. The one I was was very solid and quick.

I have a safariland with a sls hood and Its very unlike the draws Ive been doing for the last 17 years; the blackhawk, however, is very intuitive and ergonomic. Lets hope they come in Lefty.



My apologies, Mike193Inf!
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Old February 12th, 2009, 12:21 PM   #22
 
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Just a point about holsters that mechanically lock the pistol in place: if the lock malfunctions, you're screwed. I'm old enough to have seen the Speed Safety (clamshell seen on Adam-12 reruns) in use. Many years (OK, decades) later, I can still recall the time a guy had to get mechanics to use a welding grinder to cut his holster apart so he could get the gun out of it. Fortunately, when he'd originally tried to get it out, there was plenty of backup around and he was able to fade out of contact without incident.



Safety straps/hoods can be cut with a knife if absolutely necessary.
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Old February 27th, 2009, 03:09 AM   #23
 
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reagrding the serpa Lvl 2. There is a safty recall for the high wall versions. This was caused by some getting their trigger hooked on the outside wall and discharging thier weapon. I can see where this could happen but, I actually had to try to place the trigger on the wall of my holster. Needless to say it was at an really awkward angle, I was taughtto be slow and deliberate reholstering my weapon. As for the "mechanical" retention device on the serpa, it's not much more that a spring loaded rocker switch with a catch on one end for the trigger guard.
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Old March 24th, 2009, 06:54 AM   #24
 
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Hey Mike, this is Rich in Denver. Just caught this thread looking through the forums. I saw a couple guys suggesting the safariland 6300 series. If you like the speed of the Serpa I would suggest the 6320 series. I had a Serpa for my 1911 and I loved how fast it was but I hated that you could only mount blackhawk's light if you wanted a serpa that accommodates a light on your weapon. The 6320 is just as fast as the Serpa and you can mount any light on it you wish.



Its not super secure like a level 3 but thats a decision you need to make on your own. I don't like the rotating hoods...its just a weird motion on the draw and thats coming from a guy who had 6280's for his duty weapons for years. I'm more worried about faster presentation these days than some bozo getting it away from me.
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Old May 14th, 2011, 08:47 AM   #25
 
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Can't go wrong with a Safariland 6280 or ALS style holster..
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Old May 16th, 2011, 04:37 PM   #26
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One needs to remember that unlike vests with their NIJ standards, holsters do not have a retention level standard that is mandated for all manufacturers. One companies level 3 might not even make another companies level 1. Be sure and understand what makes up any companies retention level.



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Old May 24th, 2011, 11:07 PM   #27
 
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I have used two different holsters with my M&Ps on duty. I used safariland when I was carrying it with a TLR-1 or Surefire x300 attached. I used a 6320, very fast holster. I also used a blackhawk level 3 when I was given a xiphos light to test. The blackhawk was definetly faster but honestly I think the safariland might be a bit more secure against those criminals that haven't been to a "gladiator" school.
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