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what lv. 2/3 holsters are you all using?

This is a discussion on what lv. 2/3 holsters are you all using? within the Law Enforcement forums, part of the Armory category; I need to get a duty holster for my M&P40. Ive been out of the duty holster loop for a long time. Is safariland still ...


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Old August 27th, 2008, 08:48 PM   #1
 
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I need to get a duty holster for my M&P40.



Ive been out of the duty holster loop for a long time. Is safariland still king? any suggestions?

price is not a consideration.





thanks, Mike
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Old August 27th, 2008, 08:53 PM   #2
 
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Originally Posted by mike cyrwus' post='161782' date='Aug 27 2008, 10:48 PM
I need to get a duty holster for my M&P40.



Ive been out of the duty holster loop for a long time. Is safariland still king? any suggestions?

price is not a consideration.





thanks, Mike


Serpa my man! My duty 226 rides in one and that pretty Kimber SIS you did for me rides in one too- mostly at the range only with that one though. The finger lock thingy is very easy to get used too. Better than a thumb snap for sure.



Also- off topic but there was a new TV movie called "SIS" on Spike TV the other night- and the cop characters had actual Kimber SIS's w rails- I was stunned!
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Old August 27th, 2008, 09:09 PM   #3
 
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Level 2 for me...Galco Cop 3 Slot holster with thumb break. Desantis Scabbard and Galco FLETCH both with thumb break were in contention as well. Safariland makes some tried and true Level 2 and 3 holsters as well.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 11:00 PM   #4
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Old August 27th, 2008, 11:15 PM   #5
 
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I switched this week from the Safariland 070 Level 3 to the 6280 Level 2. The 070 provides very good security, but for me it is slower to get into action. I like the release feature of the 6280 more, and I like the way the holster sits on my duty belt. The 070 is a very good holster, and I have seen officers that can draw their weapon from it as fast as an officer with a Level 1 retention holster. I don't think you can go wrong with either holster.



I would advise against the Serpa, and I know that this will probably draw some comments from Serpa fans. As I see it, based on things that I have read and observed, there is a real danger of accidentally firing the Serpa during the draw. I have read that users have unintentionally fired their weapon during draw from a Serpa. I think it has something to do with where the release mechanism is on the holster and the fact that the trigger finger is used to release the retention feature. I know Tactical Response doesn't allow the Serpa in any of their classes.



Another issue that has arisen with the Serpa is that there have been cases of foreign material getting caught in the release mechanism, which in turn has trapped the weapon in the holster. I believe that ToddG mentioned some of the issues in another thread, so I am sure he has some specific information related to issues with the Serpa system.



Good luck with your holster shopping!!!!
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Old August 28th, 2008, 05:59 AM   #6
 
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Thanks for the replies.

As much as I respect my friend Mike's reccomendation, I have decided againt the serpas. One thing I do not like about the Serpa system, is that their mounting sytem is hard plastic also. We had a army reservist major that shot a local ipsc match with his deployment M9 and serpa in a thigh rig and he knocked into a doorway and that sucker sheared off at the mounts. I like how the traditional safariland belt loops are stitched leather with plastic underneath.



I will check out the bladetechs, I forgot that they started making Lv2 holsters.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 03:22 PM   #7
 
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Fine do whatever you want....



For all the Serpa haters here's some anecdotal evidence- 28 officers- 2 years use- qualify every 3 months- zero malfunctions/accidents/problems with Serpas. Trigger finger position to unlock a Serpa allows perfect indexing along side of frame rather than some POs who get jumpy and jam that trigger finger straight into that trigger guard with conventional holsters and blow toes off. That's why Serpa was designed that way. Main advantage- VERY fast. They're fairly cheap compared to all the leather stuff- try one out for a range holster or off duty. They're not a cheesy Fobus/Uncle Mike's Kydex or anything like that.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 03:31 PM   #8
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This is the one I was thinking of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiKOXgAXhfs
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Old August 28th, 2008, 07:51 PM   #9
 
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I'm using the Safariland ALS. 6300 series I think. Typical high quality Safariland product and I'm very happy with it. It has the rotating hood and then a release on the ejection port via a button that is exposed after the hood is pushed forward. It's available for most popular duty weapons, most with or without lights and there is even a non-hooded version which can be had with either a paddle or belt loop attachment for plain clothes work. It takes a little practice but is easy to master a smooth draw from this rig and retention is excellent. I also like the fact that the release mechanism is hidden between your body and the weapon where most people can't tell exactly how to get your weapon out. Not that I'm counting on that but its hopefully less tempting for someone to try.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 08:11 PM   #10
 
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I almost forgot... I do have a serpa for my 5906 ( not the full duty version just the concealment / plain clothes one) and like it quite a bit but the ALS is MUCH nicer and really makes it look cheap. Also, I don't think the blackhawk is made specificly for the M&P. I am pretty sure it's a Glock holster that works. Not a separate part number. I had looked at them when I first got my M&P but didn't like the way they fit the weapon.
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Old August 29th, 2008, 01:59 AM   #11
 
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Fine do whatever you want....



For all the Serpa haters here's some anecdotal evidence- 28 officers- 2 years use- qualify every 3 months- zero malfunctions/accidents/problems with Serpas. Trigger finger position to unlock a Serpa allows perfect indexing along side of frame rather than some POs who get jumpy and jam that trigger finger straight into that trigger guard with conventional holsters and blow toes off. That's why Serpa was designed that way. Main advantage- VERY fast. They're fairly cheap compared to all the leather stuff- try one out for a range holster or off duty. They're not a cheesy Fobus/Uncle Mike's Kydex or anything like that.
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Originally Posted by choochboost' post='161904' date='Aug 28 2008, 07:31 PM
This is the one I was thinking of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiKOXgAXhfs


That's an M&P with a light attached in that video, isn't it? Is that you chooch? I know you've been posting mall ninja videos on youtube in your spare time!!!!!!
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Old August 30th, 2008, 07:43 PM   #13
 
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Originally Posted by bekay' post='161941' date='Aug 29 2008, 04:51 AM
I'm using the Safariland ALS. 6300 series I think. Typical high quality Safariland product and I'm very happy with it. It has the rotating hood and then a release on the ejection port via a button that is exposed after the hood is pushed forward. It's available for most popular duty weapons, most with or without lights and there is even a non-hooded version which can be had with either a paddle or belt loop attachment for plain clothes work. It takes a little practice but is easy to master a smooth draw from this rig and retention is excellent. I also like the fact that the release mechanism is hidden between your body and the weapon where most people can't tell exactly how to get your weapon out. Not that I'm counting on that but its hopefully less tempting for someone to try.




I was curious...is it level 3?? I saw on their website that you can make it a level 3, and for my sheriffs department, a level 3 is required. What exactly is the "sentry hood" they talk about to make it a level 3, and does it come standard with the holster, or do you have to purchase it seperate?
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Old September 7th, 2008, 02:48 PM   #14
 
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Uniform- Safariland ALS level 2, 6360

Plainclothes- Safariland ALS 6378 paddle
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Old September 8th, 2008, 05:10 AM   #15
 
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I was curious...is it level 3?? I saw on their website that you can make it a level 3, and for my sheriffs department, a level 3 is required. What exactly is the "sentry hood" they talk about to make it a level 3, and does it come standard with the holster, or do you have to purchase it seperate?


I believe the "sentry hood" is the protective wing you see on the 6004 holsters. Prevents accidental release of the SLS by something coming straight down. We issue the 6280 and see the occasional SLS release by tac vests loaded with mags. Since the 6280 holster body is also used in the thigh rigs, shouldn't be difficult to add the wing.



Oops, checking the Safariland website and e-catalog, the sentry is a button that has to be actuated to able to release the SLS. It appears on the accessories section on page 12, can be purchased seperately and installed yourself. The sentry hood is the protective wing I noted and the sentry device. So, your thumb has to duck around the wing, depress the sentry, then operate the SLS to get your piece out. Wonder how much consideration these designers gave to accessing the weapon with your opposite hand if injured?



I was under the impression that the ALS holsters qualified as level 3.
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