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This is a discussion on M&P 45 feedback within the Law Enforcement forums, part of the Armory category; Shot my M&P FS 45 at our department shoot and loved it. I have been shooting it ever since. My poor Colt 1911 is now ...


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Old June 19th, 2010, 04:21 PM   #16
 
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Shot my M&P FS 45 at our department shoot and loved it. I have been shooting it ever since. My poor Colt 1911 is now sitting at home.



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Old June 19th, 2010, 09:59 PM   #17
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Anyone have a general idea on LEO cost on a new M&P45 FS??


In NJ we can get them for $480 with 3 mags.



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The first time you have to fight for your gun, you will understand my preference for a manual safety.


The same could be said for the magazine disconnect.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 05:41 AM   #18
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In NJ we can get them for $480 with 3 mags.







The same could be said for the magazine disconnect.




I've never owned a pistol with the mag disconnect. Are there any chances of this failing causing the gun to not fire even with the mag in the pistol?
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Old June 24th, 2010, 03:35 PM   #19
 
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I've never owned a pistol with the mag disconnect. Are there any chances of this failing causing the gun to not fire even with the mag in the pistol?


"Probably" not. I hate probably. I dislike mag disconnects. My Browning years ago did not have one. (Guess those parts got lost when I cleaned it.... )
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Old June 24th, 2010, 06:49 PM   #20
 
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I would rather toss a small pen knife onto the ground 8 feet behind the bad guy and when he or she dives to get it, I can draw.



I dont think I would want to have to fight for control if I can help it, but there are ways to make a gun useless if necessary. That is where the Ka Bar will have to come in. I hope it never comes to that.



Regarding 1911's I will be buying one soon lord willing. My accuracy with one is half the group I make with the M&P and I actually made a few groups that was a size of a quarter at 7 yards instead of a few inches. The weapon shot sweet. I am still pinching myself thinking that was a one off fantasy of good shooting out of a gun that was not all that well maintained with crap rounds through it.



Both guns are well and do good when I shoot em. I stick by my choices. Both of them.
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Old August 4th, 2010, 05:00 PM   #21
 
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"I would rather toss a small pen knife onto the ground 8 feet behind the bad guy and when he or she dives to get it, I can draw."



Did you mean to have a smilie? If not, you would murder a man and then falsify evidence? If thats the case either you are an idiot or a candidate for club fed.



"I dont think I would want to have to fight for control if I can help it,"



I carry a Kabar TDI. I don't want to use it to fight for my gun either. The thing is.....You don't get to choose where or when you fight! I'll stack the deck in my favor.



The 1911 and the M&P are not equals. The 1911 will never be as reliable. The difference in group sizes is you not the gun.
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Old August 4th, 2010, 09:32 PM   #22
 
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No murder, and no idiot here. The bad guy has to show certain things that when all together at once right that second meets the necessary to defend yourself.



You might not even have time to do anything but die if the bad guy has you set up correctly.



Nothing is guaranteed. I do know the difference between Murder and Self defense.



Regarding weapon of choice, I rather have one which I am somewhat good at rather than one that I cannot shoot worth a darn. I happen to like my MnP very much and that weapon is a extension of my body and mind. The 1911 and some others have shown great promise in this area as well. Who can blame me for looking at several weapons? You cannot own just one.



If that day comes and I have to draw, everything I knew in life is over. It will be up to the State to decide to prosecute me or not. And even if they dont, I can still be in the system against the lawsuits and other problems for a long time. It may not be worth it.



If Law Enforcement Draws, they are reviewed and generally it is settled. If anyone else draws then the power of the Courts, Law Enforcement and the State fall upon them.



And if that person is a Criminal? Or a Felon? You already have a problem anyway. That bad guy probably does NOT care at all about the Law either what is written or what is in the area in the form of Police or Law Abiding CHL holders.



There are times I sit and ponder the various defense news that pop up from other people in various situations that have had to draw and shoot or try to. Some were successful, others not so. AND a few sent to jail for murder for specific mistakes made while drawing.



With that in mind, I try to have everything in order (Burial, Savings to pay bills in case of jail or bond, and Living will etc) so that whatever happens I am at peace.



I am a good guy and am quite thankful that the evil ones who roam the night downtown in Little Rock are so far away it will be morning by the time they get to where we are.
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Old October 8th, 2010, 01:38 AM   #23
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I own a M&P 45 in the mid size. Great pistol. I have a thumb safety on all my M&Ps. (1911 guy so easy to keep the same line of thought, lol)



The mid size is perfect for me, I use the same holsters as my full size 9mm M&P.



10 round mags are great, I have two 14 round mags (take the plastic ext off the factory mag, easier to work and looks a lot better)



Installed the Apex duty kit and wow what a difference. Turns a really good pistol into a great pistol.
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Old December 31st, 2010, 12:06 PM   #24
 
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Toole County in Montana (pronounced 'tool') issues the M&P in 40 S&W. From what deputies told me when I was living there they have extremely good luck with it. Toole County is located along the US/Canadian Border and has a major interstate running through it. This is a high-trafficking area for distributors of illegal drugs and other highly precious goods!

The county does well for itself. They have great officers, superb training and an excellent reputation so there is no reason to assume they'd settle for anything second-rate!

Call them up and speak to the Undersherrif. I don't recall his name but he is a great guy and is very friendly.
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Old December 31st, 2010, 12:09 PM   #25
 
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Sorry, I forgot to mention that I don't recall if Toole County's pistols come equipped with the external safety or the magazine disconnect but either way, it'd be something worth looking into!
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Old June 24th, 2011, 10:06 PM   #26
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I only see one problem with the M&P 45 for duty. The double stack magazines hold 10 rnds.



Thus, a loaded gun with the usual two extra mags puts you holding 31 rnds. Our department requires a minimum of 36 rnds.



I would have to have an extra mag somewhere.





Not a big deal with my current single stack 45 mags, but probably a bit more cumbersome with the fatter 10 rndrs.
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 10:14 AM   #27
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I only see one problem with the M&P 45 for duty. The double stack magazines hold 10 rnds.



Thus, a loaded gun with the usual two extra mags puts you holding 31 rnds. Our department requires a minimum of 36 rnds.



I would have to have an extra mag somewhere.





Not a big deal with my current single stack 45 mags, but probably a bit more cumbersome with the fatter 10 rndrs.


Could you carry 14 rounders on the belt? (2) 14 round mags on the belt, and 10+1 in the gun gives you a total of 39 rounds.
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Old July 3rd, 2011, 12:28 PM   #28
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I didn't know they made 14 rnd mags for the M&P. If so, that would work. Do they just stick out the bottom of the gun like a G21 mag in a G30?
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I didn't know they made 14 rnd mags for the M&P. If so, that would work. Do they just stick out the bottom of the gun like a G21 mag in a G30?




S&W has made an attempt to make the look a bit more "organic". They have what looks like an x-grip, if you know what those are. I have the two mags that came with my 45, but the 14 rounder, with one in the chamber, resides on the nightstand and does all other house duty.



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Thanks for taking the time to post a picture for me. I don't think I could get by using that set up, but it seams to work.
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