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Old November 7th, 2010, 11:03 AM   #1
 
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This year, for the first time, my Department decided to purchase and issue a standardized handgun and caliber for all Deputies and Administrators, for "on duty" use by 95 commissioned personnel. We are fortunate to have a Sheriff who asked for imput and participation in this process.



Our Sheriff, along with Deputies from Swat Team and Patrol Deputies and Deputies who are Firearms Instructors, conducted a side by side comparison of several different brands of full size pistols, including Sig Sauer (P226, P229), Glock (m22 - gen 3), Springfield Armory (XDm) and the Smith and Wesson MP40, MP357. ALL ARE GREAT GUNS.



After generating a concensus based on preference and cost, we narrowed the selection process to the MP40 and G22 (gen 3). However, we waited to test the new Gen 4 M22 against the MP40, since both designs offered modular grips.



After shooting both the new Gen 4 M22 against the MP40 side by side, we determined that both pistols were equally reliable and accurate, the triggers were similar and take down of both pistols were simple, but more Deputies preferred the MP40's ergonomics and modular grip system than the Gen 4 Glock.



Deputies who tested these pistols, chose the MP40 over the Gen 4 M22, including our Sheriff. Better Ergonomics and less felt recoil were common reasons why. Subsequently, our Department purchased 95 Mp pistols, (10 are compacts) . The Smith and Wesson LE Department were great to do business with. Our order shipped and arrived a week before scheduled.



Since being issued, my department has had good results with the Mp pistols. Qualificaiton scores overall are up. I would guess due to the better ergonomics of the MP40. I polled all of our Deputies immidiately after the transition coarse (summer of 2010). I asked if they liked the M&P. The overwhelming response was YES.



There are two pistols that I am aware of that have had malfunctions during and since the transition.



One of the Mp40c's had two failure to feeds during the transition. That pistol was shot straight from the box, then suffered the FTF's. That pistol was cleaning and lubricating and continued the transistion process with no other malfunctions, including two qualifications cycles (summer and fall 2010).



A full size pistol suffered three or four failure to feeds during swat training after the transition. Those malfunctions were determined to be caused by one magazine that, when fully loaded, did not function properly with that particular pistol. Another magazine was used and no more issues with that pistol. That "problem" magazine worked fine when fully loaded and fired over and over in another pistol. Weird.



However, not everyone was a happy camper after the transition.



There were two or three Deputies who still preferred their Glocks to the Smith. There was one Deputy that prefered his Sig to the Smith. Hell, even I was not ready at the time to give up my 1911's for any other duty pistol. That's true of all the Deputies carrying a 1911 prior to the MP40. 1911's were popular with BCSO Deputies, second in popularity and use only to the Glocksters.



But truth be told, since switching to the M&P40, I personally have not missed carrying my 1911. It's quite the opposite. As stated, most of our Deputies like the M&P40 since the change over. This includes all 1911 affectionados. As time has passed and our Fall qualifications are now complete, the handfull of Deputies who prefered their personally owned gun to the M&P that I have mentioned, are now content with the Smith.



I don't know if any mid size or large L.E. Department that issues a handgun, will get 100% approval for that one handgun chosen for carry from all of it's Officers. Maybe, maybe not. It's all new to me.



But my Department came close to that with the issue of the M&P40 and M&P40c. Being the senior firearms instructor, I can safely say that the Bell County Sheriff's Office (Tx) is very happy with their new Smith and Wesson M&P's. Thank you Sheriff.





We prefer Federal HST and CCi Gold Dot loads

Current issued duty ammo Federal .40 180gr HST
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Old November 7th, 2010, 11:28 AM   #2
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Great report on your transition process.



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Our Sheriff, along with Deputies from Swat Team and Patrol Deputies and Deputies who are Firearms Instructors, conducted a side by side comparison of several different brands of full size pistols,


My only question is, why were no Officers who work in Corrections consulted for their input?
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Old November 7th, 2010, 12:06 PM   #3
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I am not a LEO. but I won't part with my M&P 40 FS (I sold the others, replaced with Sigs and an XDm). It's what I use while on RSO duty, and I find it very accurate and reliable.
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Old November 8th, 2010, 07:27 AM   #4
 
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At the time, two of our swat team members were assigned to our jail section as commissioned officer. In fact, one of those two men provided his personally owned MP40 for our tests. The other officer carried a G22. Both of these men, though assigned to the jail, were very involved with this process.
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Old November 8th, 2010, 07:35 AM   #5
 
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I wanted to thank to all of you for managing and being a part of a wonderful signt. I found myself checking MP-Pistol.com many times while researching the M&P pistol for our department. This is a great signt full of honest and thoughful reviews, range reports and opinions.
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Old November 9th, 2010, 04:25 AM   #6
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Temp Transplanted due to Military, but our home is in Bell County and I worked with the S.O. there before, great folks, great organization and the Sheriff is top notch. Was really surprised the department did not look at the mid size or full size M&P 45acp.
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