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Old March 21st, 2011, 04:50 PM   #1
 
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Greetings,



I'm a LEO in California and was considering purchasing a 45 for on/off duty carry. I currently carry a Glock 19 on/off duty so I can be proficient with one firearms. I think I'm ready to step up a caliber since I'v been shooting my NHC GRP 1911 and fell in love with the 45.



I have been doing my research to which manufacturer I want to go with. My choices currently are a Sig P220 carry or the M&P 45 midsize. I know the Sig cost more, but I'm leaning more towards the Sig b/c its a single stack and I have a quad magazine holster to carry it in. I haven't really checked out the M&P and I wanted to know if the magazine is a double stack or a single stack? How is the recoil?



If you guys have more viable info regarding the M&P mid size 45 let me know.



Thanks
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Old March 21st, 2011, 06:19 PM   #2
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All m&p's are double stack.



Recoil on par with a 1911. Easy to handle.



If I ever had to travel or live in a non-free state a M&P mid 45 would be my choice.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 06:49 PM   #3
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Greetings,



I'm a LEO in California and was considering purchasing a 45 for on/off duty carry. I currently carry a Glock 19 on/off duty so I can be proficient with one firearms. I think I'm ready to step up a caliber since I'v been shooting my NHC GRP 1911 and fell in love with the 45.



I have been doing my research to which manufacturer I want to go with. My choices currently are a Sig P220 carry or the M&P 45 midsize. I know the Sig cost more, but I'm leaning more towards the Sig b/c its a single stack and I have a quad magazine holster to carry it in. I haven't really checked out the M&P and I wanted to know if the magazine is a double stack or a single stack? How is the recoil?



If you guys have more viable info regarding the M&P mid size 45 let me know.



Thanks
I too am a LEO in NC. My PD issues the full size M&P 40. I cary the mid size 45 as an off-duty weapon. The magazine is a double stack that holds 10 rounds. The recoil is very manageable and the weapon also conceals very well for OD carry.

Good luck and stay safe!



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Old March 26th, 2011, 12:36 PM   #4
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M&P mid size .45 has been a pleasure to shoot and admired by my co workers. Recoil is more manageable than my M&P.40 FS

Rent both guns and get the one that you like best. Mine feels great in my hand,price was reasonable,(Buds Police Supply) and S&W has exceptional customer service and lifetime warranty. Happy hunting
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Hey guys, thanks for your reply and experience with the M&P. I been perusing different forums and see which deals could be had for a LEO. I looked at Buds Police Supply and Express Guns, yet very reasonable, but in the long run I am possibly going to save money with the site sponsor G and R Tactical. The reason being is I wanted the Apex DCAEK installed. After doing the math, I don't want to have to spend more money necessary by sending it by Fed/Ex or UPS to Apex and then paying for installation and having my pistol gone for weeks. I know it may sound cheap, but I gotta cut corners to afford a personal off/on duty gun.



I can't wait for my 45 mid size!!
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Old April 1st, 2011, 05:02 PM   #6
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I received my M&P45 midsize from Buds Police Supply recently. I've yet to take it to the range but it seems to be a very fine pistol. I've got the M&P9 FS and my agency is switching to the M&P40 FS for on duty carry from our current issue Sig P226R. I got the model with trijicon nite sights and mag safety for $499. I've read a review of the M&P45 series by Hilton Yam on 10-8 forums in which he states the midsize is his favorite and what he considers the "full size" and the 4.5" a "longslide". I'm sure you'll be pleased. Many consider the M&P45 to be the best of the whole M&P series.
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 06:12 PM   #7
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Greetings,



I'm a LEO in California and was considering purchasing a 45 for on/off duty carry. I currently carry a Glock 19 on/off duty so I can be proficient with one firearms. I think I'm ready to step up a caliber since I'v been shooting my NHC GRP 1911 and fell in love with the 45.



I have been doing my research to which manufacturer I want to go with. My choices currently are a Sig P220 carry or the M&P 45 midsize. I know the Sig cost more, but I'm leaning more towards the Sig b/c its a single stack and I have a quad magazine holster to carry it in. I haven't really checked out the M&P and I wanted to know if the magazine is a double stack or a single stack? How is the recoil?



If you guys have more viable info regarding the M&P mid size 45 let me know.



Thanks
After having shot both pistols. I find the M&P the better deal. I have just gotten the DCAEK kit and will be putting it in myself after I finish a couple of other things this week. With the exception of the firing pin block. You could probably put it in yourself. You would be able to get a law enforcement discount from Brownells and APEX for the kit. You can also check out the new mag pouches from Safariland. They offer a set of new pouches for duty gear. Which can be used with the standard CQB belts now offered.

http://www.copquest.com/23-3750.htm#...Magazine_Pouch

Otherwise, two work fine to me.
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Hey bara101,



I would vote for the M&P 45 Midsize. I have to admit that I haven't shot it, but it looks great. I carry the 220 and although I feel the quality of the Sig is better than the Smith, they're close enough that it won't effect the decision.



I think a striker fired gun is easier to handle than a DA also. Accuracy wise on first shots.



Good luck.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 01:00 AM   #9
 
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I vote M&P midsize. Since you're stuck in a communist State I definitely say carry a .45 since you can only carry 10 rounds anyway. If you can get a German Sig go Sig but since you'll get a NH Sig most likely I vote M&P. That is unless you have some extra cash then go HK45c.
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Old May 28th, 2011, 08:17 PM   #10
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I've really grown fond of my M&P45 midsize. It's very versatile. I wear it when working plain clothes details and then pop on the M3 light and into a leg holster for warrant servics and other tactical operations. I believe the 4" model is the best of the .45 bunch. But that's just me. YMMV
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Old May 30th, 2011, 05:39 AM   #11
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I love my 45c, I like the M&P so much that I got a FS 9mm. I'm stuck in a non-free state but being LEO we don't have the mag limit restrictions.





"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"- Benjamin Franklin
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Old May 30th, 2011, 10:37 AM   #12
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Having been trained as an armorer for both designs (P220 and M&P) I have favorable opinions about both, especially now that Sig has revised their 220 extractor to the pivoting design, tensioned by an offset plunger & spring like that used in their other current models.



I'm a long time .45 ACP owner, shooter and user, as well. Toward the end of my career I carried a 4566TSW and then a 4513TSW instead of Sig's, though, and after 20 years of carrying one or another 3rd gen S&W as an issued weapon I have a preference for them when it comes to a metal-framed traditional double action duty weapon. I never had an issue with TDA guns (or DA/SA, if you'd rather), having carried both issued DA revolvers and a personally-owned Colt Commander off-duty as a young cop.



On the other hand, even though I've only fired about 4,000-odd rounds through my '08 production M&P 45 full-size ... as well as having fired some other M&P 45's, down to the compact, in size ... I've decided I really like the M&P 45. Quite a lot. I think S&W has a real winner on it's hands with the M&P platform in general, but the M&P 45 in particular.



If I were to have a choice in a duty .45 nowadays, it would be the M&P 45. I actually enjoy shooting my M&P 45 more than my various 1911's on most days. I've had to set it aside and make myself take out my Colt XSE Government and SW1911SC 5" for several range sessions, running several hundred rounds through them.



As mentioned, the M&P uses a double stack magazine design, with the full & mid-size models using the standard 10-rd mags and the compact using the 8-rd mags (but capable of accepting the 10-rd mags). I find the small grip insert to offer close to the same "feel", for me, as the flat MSH in a 1911. The 220 has a "fatter" grip profile, even though it uses a single column mag ... again, for me.



You really need to spend some range time with examples of both and see which of the .45 grip frames feels best for you, and offers you the recoil management & controllability you desire for a working gun.



While my own M&P 45 came with a trigger on the heavier & stiffer end of the normal production tolerance (which is 7 lbs, +/- 2 lbs, and mine was running 8 1/2 - 9 lbs), the trigger break was consistently predictable and crisp and the inherent accuracy was excellent right from the beginning. By the time I'd reached about 2K+ rounds, my trigger was reading 5 1/2 - 6 lbs and was very smooth. My gun is stock, too. A couple of the newer M&P 45's I've tried on the range have had better out-of-the-box triggers than mine, and I've been told that the company has been looking at ways to address customer feedback regarding the triggers. Sure, there's some folks who complain about the M&P's smooth trigger reset being hard to notice, and don't appreciate the reset not being distracting, but as a defensive use shooter I'm not "shooting to reset", anyway, but to trigger recovery under stress. (I also shoot a number of other pistol & revolver designs, anyway, so I tend to use a trigger recovery method so I don't inadvertently "short-stroke" the trigger of another design with a longer reset.)



While I'm considering adding one of the new Enhanced SW1911's (Commander) to my 1911 collection, I'm also planning to pick up a M&P 45c. I spent a career carrying various large and "full-size" duty and off-duty weapons, and I tend to lean more toward the smaller guns nowadays. I also invest a lot of range time in them, since I still keep my hand in things as a firearms instructor & armorer, too. I suspect the M&P 45c will probably end up making me keep my CS45 & original 4513TSW in my safe when it comes to choosing a smallish .45 for retirement carry, and give the E-Series SW1911 Commander a run for its money if I add it as yet another 1911.



Luck to you in your decision.
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That was a good reply fastbolt. Let me ask you this considering you have a lot of armorer experience with Sigs and the MP. Would you say that the current M&P's are as rugged and reliable as the Sigs and Glocks, when considering thier internal design?



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Old October 21st, 2011, 03:53 AM   #14
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I like the mid size M&P 45 so much I ordered another one. I have several 1911 (Nighthawks, COLTs and a S&W), the M&P mid size 45 is great on several levels.

Lighter to carry, less felt recoil, swithable grip, 10+1 capacity and with the Apex duty kit makes a great pistol even better. I now also own two full size M&Ps.
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I carry the mid size off duty and find it to be very accurate and recoil is the same as the full size M&P 45, both my M&P 45's are accurate BUT the factory trigger is not my cup o tea..I have the S&W custom shop job on my duty gun and an Apex Tactical trigger kit om my Midsize both triggers are right at 4.5 Lbs down from the factory 8.5 to 9 Lbs.
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