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Old July 5th, 2012, 07:16 AM   #46
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My agency switched to M&P 40's in 2009. We love the gun the M&P's have been just about flawless in performnce. The next time we update pistols I am thinking about going back to the 9MM. My reasons are as follows: easier recoil control,more ammo capacity,less expensive to purchase training ammo. Performace wise 9,40 and 45 ACP are all ver similiar. All current duty Ammunition we are using is expected to pass the same standard so why not carry a gun that recoils less,holds more rounds and performance wise is very close to all the other hadgun duty rounds? YMMV
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Old July 6th, 2012, 07:37 AM   #47
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I've had some sweet M&P triggers out of the box and some gritty/noisy sand like triggers. Even the worst M&P trigger still beats the Glock hands down IMO of course. The M&P will get better after a few hundred rounds or drop in an Apex kit or have the trigger worked over by a competent smith.
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BTW, I bought the M&P 40 today, along with a holster and about to order the Apex tactical parts for the trigger. The trigger is horrible stock.
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Old July 6th, 2012, 09:10 AM   #48
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Ammo performance (good 9mm is all around)

Capacity (more is always better, less weapon manipulation as well)

Weight (9mm weighs less, carrying all day and you can feel the difference, depends on your pistol)

Economnics (I can shoot twice as much 9mm, 45acp just cost more, that savings allows me to practice more)

Controlibility and accuracy (the most important of all, what got me was going was a single weak hand in a drill we had going, I still enjoy my .45s but the 9mm FS M&P is my primary due to I can shoot faster and more accurate with it)
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Old July 6th, 2012, 09:29 AM   #49
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I think you made a good choice. I love my M&P 40c which I carry concealed. The M&P 40 is a great firearm and I love to carry it for nearly every reason you stated.

I like the quote you used from the SEAL. I guess the caliber is not important when the shots are to the head or heart...
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Old July 6th, 2012, 10:15 AM   #50
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Had heard a story from a guy that I took a class from in Chicago at ILEETA, runs a little company called STTG (Spartan Tactical Training Group) and he got in a throwdown with a BG and was carrying a Sig in .45 (don't remember the model) - he said that it was a stomach dropping feeling when he had shot the guy and hit him 6 times with .45 and felt slide lock back. Hit him center mass with those six and still had to reload because this guy was intent on shooting him. Switched to a 9mm (M&P I believe) after that and hasn't looked back since, purely on capacity alone.

Something else to consider with 9mm is that it won't penetrate lots/multiples of barriers - referring to CYA and something I heard a firearms instructor once say "every bullet has a lawyer attached to it" and even if you hit your target, if that overpenetrates and hits something (or someone) else, you might still be in trouble. Something to think about.
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Old September 6th, 2012, 11:59 PM   #51
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I have to disagree with the penetration part of your comment. 9mm will most often out penetrate a .45, if a .45 was your other caliber of comparison.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 01:37 AM   #52
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Ammo performance (good 9mm is all around)

Capacity (more is always better, less weapon manipulation as well)

Weight (9mm weighs less, carrying all day and you can feel the difference, depends on your pistol)

Economnics (I can shoot twice as much 9mm, 45acp just cost more, that savings allows me to practice more)

Controlibility and accuracy (the most important of all, what got me was going was a single weak hand in a drill we had going, I still enjoy my .45s but the 9mm FS M&P is my primary due to I can shoot faster and more accurate with it)
Effenciency......Could'nt agree more!
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Old September 7th, 2012, 03:58 PM   #53
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Just ordered a box of 9mm Power Ball 100 gr. +P.

Looks promising for off duty compact 9c.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #54
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Just ordered a box of 9mm Power Ball 100 gr. +P.
That stuff creates a low pressure area.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 10:39 AM   #55
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Curious post as I'm going into law enforcement in a year after almost 26 years Active Duty.
1911 45 or M&P 9mm? Which would you carry and why?
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Curious post as I'm going into law enforcement in a year after almost 26 years Active Duty.
1911 45 or M&P 9mm? Which would you carry and why?
What I would recommend, and did myself, is go with the m&p 40. 9's capacity with some weight behind it. I was never a fan of the .40, but I couldn't overlook it as the most logical option.

But, m&p platform over the 1911. With APEX trigger though. Stock m&p trigger sucks.

For one, I don't want to carry the extra weight on my belt all night. Secondly, I don't care for handguns with grip safeties for patrol. I can see situations where you grab the gun in a hurry and may not have a proper grip to deactivate the safety.

17 rounds versus 8 is nice too unless you go with a high cap 1911, but then it loses its sweet 1911 feel.

Good luck.
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