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Old August 7th, 2016, 01:09 PM   #31
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I have nothing against your buddy telling you something. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, maybe there are other variables involved...

...BUT! Iiiiii knooow MY CALCULUS, it says 9 + P = US. Everyone! Sing it "2Gether"!
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Old August 7th, 2016, 01:10 PM   #32
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I've used this in my pistol sights, for dots, instead of plain white paint.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Glow-On-Supe...TEQCl2pjGwqaCA

You can get different colors. I got the white. It's white in the daytime and it glows white to pale green at night - after you've shined a light on it. Hit it with your flashlight and it will glow for 2 or 3 hours.

Not as good as real tritium night sights, but better than white model paint or finger nail polish.

I degreased the hole in the sights with alcohol and used a toothpick to drip paint into the holes. It dried and left a small hole in the center of the dot. A second application made up for the shrinkage of the initial bit of paint that occurs during drying.

Oh, I have no affiliation with them, I just read about it on the XDTalk forum.
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Old August 7th, 2016, 02:20 PM   #33
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hahahahahaha too funny, I have seen Glock 40's crack at the Police department I worked at in Pasco county Florida! All guns fail it is just a matter of time and how you maintain it!
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Old August 8th, 2016, 07:59 AM   #34
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Just a correction . The service smith and Wesson that was discontinued was the 5946
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Old December 29th, 2016, 04:34 PM   #35
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This I believe. Someone did not grease the right palm...
I have to agree with you. Greased palms and politics determine what they issue. Its ashame but its true.
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Old December 29th, 2016, 05:11 PM   #36
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I tend to agree the procurement for an organization that size must be a monster. With politics inserting itself into things like trigger pull and magazine capacity. I work for a small Dept. that requires you to provide your own duty weapon. There is a requirement for .40 cal and a list of approved manufactures. Other than that you just can't change any internals from factory. My M&P .40 LEO model has been 100% with one exception. The tritium insert vanished from my front sight, an email to a S&W LE rep and i had two replacement front sights in my work mail box the next day. Armorer replaced the sight and all is well. I prefer it quite a bit over the Glock 23 I started with.
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Old December 29th, 2016, 05:11 PM   #37
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The M&P didn't pass the US Army test either.
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Old December 29th, 2016, 06:07 PM   #38
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The M&P didn't pass the US Army test either.
Any details about that "Army test?"

When I was in, we still had M1911A1's for sidearms.

We could also break M16's, .45acp greaseguns, M2 50 cals, and M60 tanks.

AFAIK; no one's been able to make anything yet that's 100% "soldier proof!"
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Old December 30th, 2016, 03:12 AM   #39
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Any details about that "Army test?"

When I was in, we still had M1911A1's for sidearms.

We could also break M16's, .45acp greaseguns, M2 50 cals, and M60 tanks.

AFAIK; no one's been able to make anything yet that's 100% "soldier proof!"
Actually it might have been a "joint services test" or something. All I know is the M&P was the first one dropped from the competition.

I think the manufacturers have a clause that states the reason for the failures won't be released.

I like these competitions because it motivates manufacturers to develop a better product but I don't put a lot of credence in them. If I did rely on them I don't know what gun I'd carry since they all fail the trials at one time or another.

Even revolvers aren't all that reliable when they are full of mud or the ejector rod unscrews itself.

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I carried a Beretta M-9 pretty much everyday for 20 years. If that was the best pistol per the Army testing guidelines. Its time for a new test.
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Actually it might have been a "joint services test" or something. All I know is the M&P was the first one dropped from the competition.

I think the manufacturers have a clause that states the reason for the failures won't be released.

I like these competitions because it motivates manufacturers to develop a better product but I don't put a lot of credence in them. If I did rely on them I don't know what gun I'd carry since they all fail the trials at one time or another.

Even revolvers aren't all that reliable when they are full of mud or the ejector rod unscrews itself.
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I carried a Beretta M-9 pretty much everyday for 20 years. If that was the best pistol per the Army testing guidelines. Its time for a new test.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 06:38 AM   #42
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I carried a Beretta M-9 pretty much everyday for 20 years. If that was the best pistol per the Army testing guidelines. Its time for a new test.
The entire results of the test that resulted in the selection of the M9 is available online if you are interested.

It did better than the competition.
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