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Old May 19th, 2011, 08:47 AM   #46
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During my 33 years as a LEO I always carried my duty weapon as my off-duty weapon, my size allowed me to conceal them very well.
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Old May 20th, 2011, 07:03 AM   #47
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Currently we carry the Hk USP Compact in .45. We are still waiting for our drop delivery from S&W...Mid-size .45's on the way!!! I will be carrying it off-duty some, but not until I know its as reliable as my G-19.

Our ammo is 230 gr Federal Hydra-shok (whatever they call the latest version of it...tactical blah blah). I wish we were carrying 230 gr Gold-dots but...policy prohibits it.

Off-duty, I carry whatever I want. I have a CCW permit and dont necessarily need to qualify with anything. I do, however, qualify with my G-19...loaded with 124 gr Gold dots. Policy allows us to qualify with nothing smaller than a .38 and the pistol has to be onced-over by one of the firearms instructors.
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Old May 20th, 2011, 01:52 PM   #48
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I hope you're carrying the Federal HST's and not the actual hydra shocks. The hydra shocks are horrible rounds that don't expand much at or at all. We carry the 230 grain Winchester SXT's now after pleading for months to get away from hydra shocks. Admin finally had an ammo demo done by a rep and saw the difference in hydra shocks and the newer tech HST's and SXT's.

I carry HST's off duty btw.
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Old May 20th, 2011, 03:20 PM   #49
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The old style 230gr. Hydra Shoks were the king of one shot stopping power for a long time. When Federal changed the hollow point to a more feed happy rounded profile, I think it hurt the round.
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Old May 20th, 2011, 07:22 PM   #50
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We had an animal put down with a hydra shock two years ago where the hollow point filled with hair and didn't expand one bit. The round was located and looked good enough to be reloaded. That's not an exaggeration the round was plugged with hair but other wise looked unfired. That was the end of the hydra shock for my employer. The demo test put on by Winchester showed the hydra had the same problem with wall board and denim. little if any expansion as soon as that hollow point hits anything that can pack in there.
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Old May 21st, 2011, 01:19 AM   #51
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Yah, time goes on and the HS has gotten long in the tooth.

But, the HST is the new kid on the block. I fired a few 147gr. 9mm's through one wet phone book. The round burned through and burried about 5 inches into the dirt beneath. Perfect expansion through one phonebook worth of material.

Amazing round. And the first to have slower heavier bullets expand like the lighter faster ones. Keeping the deep penetration meanwhile. I loveem.
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 04:02 PM   #52
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Good question

My duty carry is a M&P 45 full size.

my backup is the .45 compact. I choose it for magazine interchangeability.

I keep everything the same on them: sights, grip inserts.... everything.

I also carry the Compact off duty, however I sometimes carry a Springfield TRP off duty as well.

I also keep the TRP in my patrol car.

One way or another all of those weapons are with me all the time...
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Old May 24th, 2011, 10:58 PM   #53
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I carry the same thing off duty as I do on duty. Currently I went back to the issued glock 17, but I have also carried a Sig in 226, 228, M&P 9mm and M&P .45 FS.

I don't seem to have any issues concealing a bigger gun then a smaller one. Occasionally I will settle with just a Ruger LCR or Smith snubbie if I want to wear a tight tshirt and no cover shirt, but I hate to settle.
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Old May 25th, 2011, 12:49 PM   #54
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What made you go back to the Glock, and in 9.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 04:54 PM   #55
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USP 40c on duty, off duty is one of these 3: mp40c,649 body guard, para ord companion. We have to qualify with our off duty guns as well.
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Old December 23rd, 2012, 05:15 AM   #56
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On duty is a Sig 226R .357 Sig, off duty is a M&P 40C IWB or a Bodyguard .380 in a pocket holster for the warmer months. I also have a H&K 40C (my favorite of all) but it is heavy and I find that i never carry it, so it now has a light on it and fills the home defense role for my wife.

My department traded our old Sig 226 .357's for the version with a rail in 2008. I loved my original issued duty gun, but I hate my new one. You name the problem and I have had it (FTE, FTF, slide wont lock back on empty), I'm positive my gun was built on a Monday or a Friday. No problems with my personal guns and I have to run the same qualification course with my off duty guns as my department issued.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 07:11 PM   #57
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M&P 9mm on duty, M&P 9mm pro off duty both full size consistency is key.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 04:40 PM   #58
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I'm fortunate enough that I used the MP platform before being issued a FS MP45. The only other platform I own is a 1911, which I find has a very similar feel to the MP. I think this might be one of those things that's over analyzed. I mean, even if you carry a different platform than your duty weapon, it's still just a handgun, not rocket science.

The only thing I could think of is if you use completely different sight systems. Other, than that, it still goes boom the same way.
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