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|June 28th, 2013, 11:19 AM||#1|
Join Date: Jun 2013
Please help me to decide
Have a choice between two M&P Compact 45's and I seek your help in choosing between them.
First off, they are both 2012-made guns, during the 2nd half of that year. They both include their original boxes along with 2 mags and back straps, etc.
The older of the two (by a few months) is offered as "unfired" and appears to be mint. Trigger is long, not gritty and very stageable with a strong break, maybe 8-10 lbs. It is complete stock as from the factory.
The price of this one is $490.00
The 2nd gun is in excellent condition and is equipped with a front night sight (Big Dot, I think) and a 10-8 rear sight with no dots or bars. It also is offered as having the Apex trigger kit installed, as evidenced by the bag in the box containing the original factory parts.
The trigger pull is long and smooth but kinda spongy without an obvious staging point. Reset is short, but not audible and the break is softer than the new one, probably 6# or less. By comparison, this trigger is not as nice as the Apex kit that a previous owner installed on my FS 45.
The price of THIS gun is $599.00
Please help me pick one. The gun will likely be a house/range gun only and may never be carried (I am happy w my Shield) and so I like the night sight, but I am having trouble otherwise justifying the extra $100 over improved sights and the existence of some Apex parts and a meh trigger.
Thanks in advance
Last edited by Drum; June 28th, 2013 at 05:38 PM.
|June 28th, 2013, 11:38 AM||#2|
Join Date: Jul 2012
I would go for the $490 and know what you are getting. Get some use on the gun and then see what it needs. I would rather not deal with someone elses Apex install if I wasn't happy with it.
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|June 28th, 2013, 01:09 PM||#5|
Join Date: Mar 2013
|June 28th, 2013, 04:59 PM||#8|
Join Date: Jun 2013
Thanks for the excellent advice. I chose the cheaper, unfired option. I tried both triggers side by side and found that the unmodified gun had almost exactly the same trigger as my brand new Shield 9, which I have been warming to. Breaks fairly cleanly at around 8-10lbs... guessing, but it is really no challenge to stage and pull either trigger. Maybe the 2013 triggers really ARE an improved version.
The Apex modified gun had a noticeably lighter trigger pull but the reset and take up was about the same and actually, the Apex'd trigger had a tiny bit more creep than the factory trigger imho.
That coupled with your advice AND a couple of other realizations completely sealed the deal for me.
1. The unfired gun is only about two months old, fired casing has a 5/6/13 date. It truly appears unfired too... literally in showroom new condition.
2. I had either forgotten or did not noticed that the Apex'd M&P was equipped with a thumb safety. Normally this is not a bother to me, but since I already have a FS 45 with no safety, consistency of controls just makes more sense.
Finally, the more expensive gun had a ding near the muzzle (probably caused by whatever hack changed the front sight and Apex'd it) that was clear through to bare metal.
In the end, it was a simple choice. The fact that I walked out of there paying only $490 instead of $599 was just icing on the cake. I am much happier with this gun than the older, modified gun, though that one did have a cool build date; 10/11/12
Anyway, thanks again and many blessings upon the good people at the Kittery Trading Post. That whole crew is just stand up good people.
Last edited by Drum; June 28th, 2013 at 05:04 PM.
|June 28th, 2013, 08:03 PM||#10|
Join Date: May 2013
No brainer, factory one! I have a 10/12 mfgd 45c. AWESOME! The trigger is good to start out. By about 500rds it feels great. Better than any striker fired pistol out there!
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