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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:23 AM   #16
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Thanks for all the comments guy's. Yes the stippling is not all that grippy I really never had a problem with gripping the gun I just really like the looks of it. That is the real reason I did it also.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 01:50 PM   #17
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But you're willing to point your weapon-mounted-light, therefore your firearm, at a family member?
Not me. When I train with my weapon light I bounce it off the ground. It still has plenty of light to illuminate the area in front of me. To me, going through my house with both hands tied up is not good. If I have to open a door, hold back children, push an assailant, or whatever I don't want to have to choose whether to drop my gun or light. Either would be bad.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 03:05 PM   #18
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Night sights are mandatory? The guys from our special teams hate them and cover with black tape lol. Their reasoning is during building clearing, they could walk right past the perp and not know it, but the perp will see exactly where they are from the vials.

Some form of moderate lumen (not too high) flashlight for sure, but tritiums are not mandatory.

Nights sights do help, but if you can't use them then there ya go.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 06:27 PM   #19
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Anb', how many folks on this forum do you think are on the teams? I'd wager not one. But good for the special teams, I'm sure they have their reasons. Thank GOD for them and what they do!

But building clearing is NOT the job of the homeowner. That's just Rambo crap. The homeowners job is to get the loved ones into a safe room and keep anyone else out of it until the cops arrive to clear the house. It takes manpower to correctly clear a house. The homeowner should also get on the phone to the cops, put the phone on speaker and speak loudly. Telling the dispatcher what's going on, tell the perp to get out, you're armed etc', and to let the cops know where everyone is so that no one who's supposed to be in the house gets shot by them. And finally, to stay put and out of the perp's way and the cops way. So night sights are OK if not mandatory. Did anyone actually say that they were mandatory? I find the dim glow of night sights to be a pretty poor argument against having them if one is also going to have a flashlight of some sort. Which is brighter? But it makes no difference if one stays put and attends to their proper function and allows the cops to do theirs. With all the bright lights and the loud talking that should be going on, the dim glow from tritium sights is totally meaningless.
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Brian, teams or not, it doesn't negate his point. For instance, My room is clear across the house from my children's room. If all lights are off and something happens, I don't think a night sight would keep me from seeing someone, but if it does for a guy on a "team" then the same goes for home.

Also, the topic of home invasion is a very dynamic one. Circumstances, and the way one person may handle them, creates an infinite amount of factors and possibilities. So sure, it may be wise to stay put and call 911 with your gun, but some people may need to be on the move for one reason or another. In my case, if someone busted through the window, I'm going out into the house to secure my children and get them all to a safe place where I can protect them. Therefore I may need a hand free. Even if my room was right next to theirs, I have to go out into the house and I'm not going to leave it to chance for whoever it may be, to find his way to the room where I am keeping my family. I'd rather take my chances one on one with him in an empty room, than wait for him to find us, and confront me in a place where my family are now in danger.

These days on the forums so many people declare things as if self defense has rules. There are no rules. What may be best for someone else, may not work for other. What ever did people do before night sights? Seeing people post their setups and disclosing their preparedness for a hypothetical situation, and seeing other people respond hypothetically with other hypothetical situations, is getting old.

OP, do what you think works for you. There are infinite variables involved in the defense of one's self wether it be hand to hand, or with any form of weapon. I'm sure with how people like to nit pick and "disagree" with "opinions" these days, would have you writing a damn novel to explain why you've made decisions in your preparedness down to the tiniest little detail. "Ah man it's best that you don't put your shorts on if you sleep naked cause every little second is precious and you give the intruder the upper hand". If it happens to me, I'm putting my damn shorts on...

For anyone who's made it this far, don't take this as me being upset and I'm trying to be polite, I just think this needs to be said.

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Old June 5th, 2016, 10:32 AM   #21
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^^^^ Well said, Sir!
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Old June 5th, 2016, 01:57 PM   #22
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I can see that I chose the right M&P forum to join. There are some very intelligent members here. I certainly didn't come from Glock Talk (lol), but I've been around my fair share of specialty forums and the OT mentality tends to carry over.

Kudos, mp-pistol, kudos.
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Well one thing I do like the discussion it has raised.
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Old November 10th, 2016, 12:18 PM   #24
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I'm glad you like the grips too! Those are my #8 (big dots) design. Been selling them since 2011. Enjoy them!

Great convo about sights...everyone has their opinion...most of us like some sort of tritium on our HD guns - but hey, as long as you have a plan and you PRACTICE it - it's your set-up. Just make sure you know that you can't clear a house alone and expect to be 100% successful. You tell yourself that you are (when you investigate for noises), but, I bet you never find a perp. That ONE time that a couple of thugs truly break in and separate - your fun tromping around the house will not go well. Unless of course you just start shooting at anyone you see!!!!
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What good is any of it, without PROPER training and common sense.
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But you're willing to point your weapon-mounted-light, therefore your firearm, at a family member?
Cops point their weapon-mounted-light equipped pistol at innocents all the time when identifying targets.
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Cops point their weapon-mounted-light equipped pistol at innocents all the time when identifying targets.

They surely do...!!! I`ve seen it happen so many times.
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I like my TLR-6 light/laser... the felon only thinks i have a flashlight pointed at him/her.
As for night sights....ABSOLUTELY.... i dont care how the marines do it, its NOT the same scenario.

And to holler to the felon(s) that kicked your door down that you have a gun...??? Big mistake...PERIOD
After saying that, you`ve heightened his sense`s that he`ll be more cautious about killing you.

You stay silent, let the threat come to you... the element of surprise.
Worst thing you can do is to let the felon know where you are.

Nobody can say what they would do in a threat, until you`ve been thru it,
and no two threats are the same... therefore, train well, be alert 24/7.
Know and practice your plans...OFTEN

We no longer live in a safe world...learn AND know how to kill, or be killed.
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Night sights are mandatory? The guys from our special teams hate them and cover with black tape lol. Their reasoning is during building clearing, they could walk right past the perp and not know it, but the perp will see exactly where they are from the vials.

Some form of moderate lumen (not too high) flashlight for sure, but tritiums are not mandatory.

Nights sights do help, but if you can't use them then there ya go.
The perp is going to hear you long before they`ll EVER see those night sights...
Sorry, i just can`t agree with your comment about covering the sights up.
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