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Old June 4th, 2016, 11:13 PM   #1
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Installed the APEX CDAEK today

I rethought my decision to not install the CDAEK into my 9c and installed it today.

I think the pull was a hair lighter previous to the install, but the reset is definitely better. Everything meaningful as far as the trigger goes has been moved closer to the backstrap and I like that. I might put the OEM springs back in ( I think they were lighter), but I need to resist the urge to make my CCW gun into my competition gun. I'm going to give it time and rounds downrange before I do anything more.
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Old June 5th, 2016, 09:20 AM   #2
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I rethought my decision to not install the CDAEK into my 9c and installed it today.

I think the pull was a hair lighter previous to the install, but the reset is definitely better. Everything meaningful as far as the trigger goes has been moved closer to the backstrap and I like that. I might put the OEM springs back in ( I think they were lighter), but I need to resist the urge to make my CCW gun into my competition gun. I'm going to give it time and rounds downrange before I do anything more.

The stock trigger return spring is lighter than the DAEK trigger return spring (TRS).

In the CAEK it's lighter than the stock TRS.
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Old June 5th, 2016, 01:32 PM   #3
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On my personal experience, I installed the Apex sear and ultimate striker block in mine, just testing it I didn't really see that much difference, it was a little lighter and the reset was better, but it wasn't the night and day difference I was expecting.

Then I took it to the range...night and day difference was suddenly there! I had been disappointed in the accuracy of my stock M&P40, I've shot competitively for many years, now retired, and the eyesight and other things have definitely slipped, but I should have been shooting better, and after the parts installation all of sudden it was shooting...a lot better. Even though my initial opinion wasn't that impressive, when I actually shot the pistol that changed instantly!
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Old June 5th, 2016, 03:56 PM   #4
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Yes it is Rick. I reinstalled the OEM springs today and got what I wanted. The Apex springs yielded a crisp trigger (for striker fired), but just a bit too heavy for me. FWIW, It's still heavier than my comp' gun and that's exactly what I wanted. It appears to have kept all of the other positive attributes of the APEX parts.

Now I need some range time with this configuration to see how it works in use.
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Old June 21st, 2016, 04:53 PM   #5
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Yes, use the factory OEM trigger spring in conjunction with your Apex DCAEK and you should come in at around 5 1/4 pounds with your trigger. I have three M&P's with this combination, two of which are my 9c and 40c (which is brand new) and for me, it is the best way to go.
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Old June 21st, 2016, 06:00 PM   #6
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I've set up two of my carry M&P's (M&P9 and a 9c) by installing an Apex sear and striker block with the provided springs, while retaining the stock trigger, trigger return spring, and striker spring.

In both instances; I achieved trigger pulls of @ 3 1/2 - 3 3/4 pounds, with a nice reset.

I'm happy with that, as most of my 1911's triggers fall within that same range.
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are there not legal issues for messing with the triggers on CCW guns?
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Old July 6th, 2016, 02:47 PM   #8
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Well, there can be. I'll never be able to find the thread discussing it here though. If your gun is used ina shooting the LEOs will take it and dissect it. They will find anything done to it. Factory mods, and it makes no difference whose factory, are tolerated was the gist. Homegrown mods might be a problem.
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As long as the mods didn't contribute to an accidental shooting; my statement would be that "the mods were made to allow me to shoot the pistol as accurately as possible; to minimize the chances of any shots I had to take missing."
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As long as the mods didn't contribute to an accidental shooting; my statement would be that "the mods were made to allow me to shoot the pistol as accurately as possible; to minimize the chances of any shots I had to take missing."
Accurately stated. Totally agree!
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are there not legal issues for messing with the triggers on CCW guns?
In this case I think it would be easily defended. You can provide reams of material going back years that there are considered problems with the M&P triggers that are commonly corrected with after market parts.There is no evidence that these modifications are intended to, or make the gun any more lethal. They would run out of court time listening to expert witnesses attesting to this fact.

Having said that, just that fact that you are carrying a gun however legal, could be construed as something other then what it is. So you are taking a risk every time you leave the house with a gun that you may find yourself in legal trouble. Not to mention the possible tens of thousands of dollars it may take to get you out of trouble even if you haven't done a thing.

I discovered this myself not relating to a gun charge but when charged with receiving stolen property in connection with a RICO charge surrounding an illegal gambling thing I go caught up in. This stuff can really snowball and cost you a lot to get out of it. Just something to think about.

George Zimmerman vs. the state of Florida trial by the way cost Zimmerman around $300,000.00 and he was found innocent. Could just as easily have been any of us trying to pay that bill. There is a gamble carrying a gun no matter how you look at it. Better think twice before pulling that gun on anybody. You will likely see your life change forever.

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