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Old June 19th, 2016, 05:12 AM   #1
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9c, safety or not.

I have a 9c with no safety, thinking of picking up another one. What are the pros and cons of the safety? My previous carry was a 1911, so I'm kind of familiar with the safety. Do they have any issues?

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Old June 19th, 2016, 09:22 AM   #2
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Keep in mind the safety on the M&P won't be nearly so convenient to use as the 1911. The 1911 was pretty much designed to be carried 'cocked and locked' so it could be brought into action quickly, with a striker fired pistol that isn't necessary, the basic design is inherently safe if used with some kind of safety on the trigger, as virtually all striker fired pistols are designed.

Personally, a separate safety really isn't necessary on the M&P, its much like a revolver, its safe to carry and all you have to do is pull the trigger to get it going.
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I had two M&P's without safety, never had any issues. My 9C has a safety, large lever is easy to use without having to look for it.

The Boss(wifey),prefers the safety. And it isnt that big of an issue, other than having to modify the holster I had so it didnt hit the safety lever on the 9C.
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I like the option of having a safety. I also use mine to holster and then turn it off. I use it when just generally handling the gun. You can always turn it off but if you want to use it for any reason, it will be there
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One advantage of a safety that's left on (or flipped on) is that if the gun is ever taken from you, if it's ever turned on you there will be some fumbling until he gets it running. That gives you time to do what you need to do.
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One advantage of a safety that's left on (or flipped on) is that if the gun is ever taken from you, if it's ever turned on you there will be some fumbling until he gets it running. That gives you time to do what you need to do.
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Whatever it takes. :-) I'd make him hurt bigtime, then take my gun back.

Seriously, thumb safeties have saved a few officers lives. But if a concealed carrier has his gun taken away something is badly wrong IMO. But I had to throw that out there.
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Looked at 1 today at the local gun store. Didn't know that the 1 with the safety is $50 more. Is this true every where? I did like it though, ambi safety, right where it should be, and felt very positive on and off

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The same can be said about magazine disconnects. When the magazine is out, the pistol can't fire. Ejecting the magazine will disable the pistol if one is involved in a tussle. Of course there are pro's and con's with the magazine disconnect. Whether you decide to get a thumb safety or not, practice with whatever pistol you carry. With any pistol or revolver, I rest easier knowing it is in a holster that is covering the trigger.

A person I know had his Glock 26 in his front pocket. When he went to pull out his car keys...KaBoom. That's where a good pocket holster is essential. He is healing nicely!
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I bought (ordered) my 9C to even get the safety. I bought it with the safety because it is like a 1911, in fact exactly the same feel and operates just like the 1911 which I was also use to. So the 9C safety is extremely easy to use.
I do not carry my 9C though, I bought mine for my home defense gun with a light & laser combo on it for my night stand. I did not want to reach for it in the dark with out a safety. I always carry one of my baby Glock's without safeties for my CCDW.


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rlfrye,
By the way you're avatar looks, we must think alike.

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I have a 9c with no safety, thinking of picking up another one. What are the pros and cons of the safety? My previous carry was a 1911, so I'm kind of familiar with the safety. Do they have any issues?

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Easy choice since the safety is easily removed. I called S&W and they sent me the plugs free of charge in case I change my mind and decide to remove the safety. You can't add a safety to a gun that doesn't have one, but you can remove it. Easy choice.
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Always handle a handgun safely. All guns have a safety factor built in. Drop safeties, trigger safeties, grip safeties. None work until you learn to handle a gun safely.

The only safety is user oriented. The gun is always loaded. Even if you are sure it is 100 percent unloaded, treat it as loaded. Do not point a gun at anything you do not wish to destroy or kill. Keep finger off trigger until target acquired.

Learn the gun and the rest will just be a reflex.
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Always handle a handgun safely. All guns have a safety factor built in. Drop safeties, trigger safeties, grip safeties. None work until you learn to handle a gun safely.

The only safety is user oriented. The gun is always loaded. Even if you are sure it is 100 percent unloaded, treat it as loaded. Do not point a gun at anything you do not wish to destroy or kill. Keep finger off trigger until target acquired.

Learn the gun and the rest will just be a reflex.
And then you have "Negligent discharge" on you tube including police officers. Most gun owners I am afraid are very casual owners and don't train at all. Or have not in a long time. If someone feels more comfortable with a safety I would never discourage it or try to make them feel like a pussy or something. I like a safety and have shot guns for almost 60 years.
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Looked at 1 today at the local gun store. Didn't know that the 1 with the safety is $50 more. Is this true every where? I did like it though, ambi safety, right where it should be, and felt very positive on and off

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Not everywhere.

Down here; the M&P's with TS (regardless of model) are priced lower than those without.

I prefer that my striker fired pistols not have a manual safety; apparently others share that preference.
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