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Old July 25th, 2016, 06:16 PM   #1
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Apex?

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and not sure if I'm doing this the right way but I have a question. I currently have the M&P 40c as my every day carry. Love the gun. But I'm hearing a lot of hype about the Apex upgrade for the trigger assembly. I don't mind the stock trigger on the 40 now, but also don't love it. I have no experience with Apex but was wondering if any of y'all do and could point me in the right direction. Is it worth looking into or is it just a fad? And if it is worth checkin out, which trigger do y'all recommend?

I moved your post to a more appropriate area on the board.--G56

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Old July 25th, 2016, 08:46 PM   #2
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No hype, the Apex parts are awesome, definitely worth doing, they allow you to shoot the pistol more accurately. I have installed Apex carry kits in two of my three M&P pistols, the third one is a Shield, since those are considered a belly gun, mainly used at very short ranges I didn't feel the need.

Its up to you, but I can assure you the parts from Apex Tactical are worth the money.
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Old July 25th, 2016, 10:09 PM   #3
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Apex parts in my two M&P pistols....well worth the money.

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Old July 26th, 2016, 05:45 AM   #4
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Dittos what's already be written about the Apex parts.

I have their competition parts in my comp' gun and their duty/carry parts in the 9c.
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Old July 26th, 2016, 05:54 AM   #5
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I have Apex kits in all my M&Ps but didn't take the leap until I'd shot them extensively. Wish I'd done it sooner.
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Old July 26th, 2016, 11:25 AM   #6
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Welcome to the Neighborhood!

Apex Kits are awesome! I just put one their spring kits in my Model 60 this morning. It cut the double action trigger pull in half I would say. My gauge will only measure up to 8lbs, but prior to the install the gun felt like about 12 lbs. Now it's about 6-6.5 lbs and very smooth. Already had the same kit in a Model 637. It did the same for that gun.

You can't go wrong with Apex! I have a FSS Kit in my FS Pro Series .40 as well. Made that gun have as close to a 1911 trigger as you can get! Hope this helps!
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Old October 24th, 2016, 08:15 AM   #7
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I have the Apex Tactical DCAEK kit in my 9c, 40c, and 45 full size 4" barrel. In all three of these guns, I kept the factory OEM trigger spring to get a lighter pull weight of around 5 pounds. The kit is definitely the way to go with these guns. In the 9c and 40c, you can't beat it for much improved accuracy and feel. Go with it.

BTW, the 9c and 40c are two of the best carry guns for their compact size you can own.
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Old October 28th, 2016, 02:44 PM   #8
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Where do you guys get them installed (DCAEK) or are you doing it yourselves...I think I'd like to try this in my 357c...

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Old October 28th, 2016, 07:45 PM   #9
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After watching the videos I decided to do it myself. I bought the DCAEK kit off Ebay (it was the lowest price I could find). I purchased an inexpensive punch kit off of Amazon. For a site pusher I ended up using a flate blade screwdriver with a bunch of duct tape on the end so as to not scratch the finish of the gun. The videos are pretty easy to follow but make sure you pay attention as you take it apart as it will make it easier when putting it back together. I did the DCAEK kit and put on a polymer trigger. It made a huge difference on my gun. Huge differnce in feel and an even bigger difference on accuracy. Money well spent. It probably took me two hours to put in the kit and the trigger. I was slow to make sure I got it right and did not scratch the finish on my gun.

DCAEK: Apex Tactical S&W M&P Duty / Carry Action Enhancement Kit - 9mm & 40 S&W DCAEK | eBay

Punch Set: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Trigger: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thanks...los of good info...'preciate the links to...

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Old October 29th, 2016, 06:40 PM   #11
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I have the apex on my M&P9FS and made a big difference in trigger pull. Just installed it on my Shield and feels a lot better than the stock one. Going to the range tomorrow to test it out.
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Always remember, any changes to a firearm past stock are real life fodder for any prosecutor. If you carry the firearm for protection, you have to keep this in mind, along with the ammo that you use. Lawyers will stand in a courtroom, and tell the jury how along with this trick trigger, and your black talon's, you were just out looking for a confrontation. If you are involved in a shooting, you don't need to give them any more ammo than they already have. Besides sights, I leave all of my carry firearms stock. I use ammo that has the word/words defense, home defense, etc. Some say that this type of thing never happens, but I have witnessed it here in my state on several occasions. Some call it paranoia, I call it intelligent thinking.
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Old December 6th, 2016, 12:40 PM   #13
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Mostly a myth that never stops, I work in the field in defense.

No matter how many mods you make the only real question (if you intended to shoot) is was the shooting justified under state statute.

In most states something of this ilk....

The actor believes that such force is necessary to protect himself against death or serious bodily harm.

(ignoring the castle rule and duty or lack of duty to retreat to avoid complexity)

No offense meant, it seems millions of people have spread this rumor.

Where mods could come in to play legally is a AD, if you have an accidental discharge and hurt or kill someone mods that lighten the trigger and so forth may lead a jury to find your actions negligent, in the case of death the could result in manslaughter.

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Always remember, any changes to a firearm past stock are real life fodder for any prosecutor. If you carry the firearm for protection, you have to keep this in mind, along with the ammo that you use. Lawyers will stand in a courtroom, and tell the jury how along with this trick trigger, and your black talon's, you were just out looking for a confrontation. If you are involved in a shooting, you don't need to give them any more ammo than they already have. Besides sights, I leave all of my carry firearms stock. I use ammo that has the word/words defense, home defense, etc. Some say that this type of thing never happens, but I have witnessed it here in my state on several occasions. Some call it paranoia, I call it intelligent thinking.
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Old December 6th, 2016, 07:47 PM   #14
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i install Apex Flat face forward set sear kits in all my guns, i love them
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Old December 6th, 2016, 08:41 PM   #15
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Have Apex carry kits in both of my M&P's and wouldn't have them any other way now. Installed both of them at home with basic tools. While I do have several years of some gun modification experience I would think most people could do it successfully if they properly research the videos available and pay attention to them.

The trickiest part is getting the reset adjusted just right which only requires bending a small tab on the trigger bar to the proper tolerance. A feeler gauge helps with this but is not absolutely required.
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