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Old December 4th, 2016, 04:56 PM   #1
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Need help with Alien Great IWB

Hi all. I recently got an Alien Great IWB holster, but I'm running into problems. As my only other holster has been a Remora, I don't know if the problem is the holster or me.

I have an M&P 9c, no extras and no alterations. My problem is that I'm only able to extract the gun from the holster about 50% of the time.

I'm trying to carry at 5 o'clock. When I got the holster, the kydex (or whatever it is on these) was very snug. I couldn't pull the gun at all. And I'm not a wimp. 5 foot 8 inches, 190 lbs, middle aged. So, I loosened the screws until the retention was such that he just held the gun when shaking upside down.

But when I put the dumb thing on, I can't get it to pull. It's like the spring steel liner bends and presses into the gun forming a very solid grip. The only way I can get it out of the holster is to loosen my pants. (Lol. Not a best course of action.)

I also tried different cants. Both screws at deepest position. Then one at middle. Then both at middle. No go.

So, what is this novice doing wrong? Thank you!

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Old December 5th, 2016, 08:03 AM   #2
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Don't have an Alien Gear holster, so I can't help you there. Maybe if you called them they should be able to help.
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Old December 5th, 2016, 10:09 AM   #3
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I would suggest a better holster. I made the mistake of trying one, I ended up giving it to a financially less fortunate member of our local club.
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Old December 5th, 2016, 11:13 AM   #4
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I am right handed and have some right shoulder issues that I know will eliminate my reaching behind my back in an emergency to draw from any kind of holster.
But I'm always curious about those who carry behind the back or beyond 3 o'clock. Do you order opposite had orientation? Seems that, for example, if I am right handed and wanted to carry at 6 o'clock I would be able to extract my gun from a left handed orientation (that would place the grip facing my approaching hand instead of away as a right hand holster would) holster easier than a right handed holster at that position.

And I wonder if that may be part of the OP's problem here.

I am looking to carry appendix position but on my left front as it seems that my drawing motion would be more fluid, support hand and all. Obviously, what works for one may not work for all.

Input anyone?
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Old December 5th, 2016, 01:29 PM   #5
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I wondered about reversing my hand position, too, just like you said. But I had to work my elbow in a weird way. No go.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the holster. It seems to be built well and is very comfortable.

Thank you all for your input.

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Old December 5th, 2016, 02:03 PM   #6
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They make crossdraw holsters for just those issues....................
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Old December 6th, 2016, 06:56 AM   #7
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"So, I loosened the screws until the retention was such that he just held the gun when shaking upside down."

I've never seen the need to have an IWB holster tight enough to retain a fully loaded pistol while being shaken upside down. If you have it tight enough to do that...AND...you tighten your belt down enough to hold it and your pants up...I can see why you can't draw your pistol!

Heck, I just turn my holster upside down and my empty pistol falls out...BUT...once I put it on and tighten my belt to sufficiently hold my pants and pistol up I think I could stand on my head, do cartwheels, jumping jacks, etc.. and it wouldn't come out!
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Old January 8th, 2017, 01:28 PM   #8
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Hi all. I recently got an Alien Great IWB holster, but I'm running into problems. As my only other holster has been a Remora, I don't know if the problem is the holster or me.

I have an M&P 9c, no extras and no alterations. My problem is that I'm only able to extract the gun from the holster about 50% of the time.

I'm trying to carry at 5 o'clock. When I got the holster, the kydex (or whatever it is on these) was very snug. I couldn't pull the gun at all. And I'm not a wimp. 5 foot 8 inches, 190 lbs, middle aged. So, I loosened the screws until the retention was such that he just held the gun when shaking upside down.

But when I put the dumb thing on, I can't get it to pull. It's like the spring steel liner bends and presses into the gun forming a very solid grip. The only way I can get it out of the holster is to loosen my pants. (Lol. Not a best course of action.)

I also tried different cants. Both screws at deepest position. Then one at middle. Then both at middle. No go.

So, what is this novice doing wrong? Thank you!

Moto Z Forced me to do this.
I had a too tight issue on my Alien Gear, and the screws would not solve it. What I did, and I bet will work for you is, find where the Kydex is binding the gun...most likely the trigger guard. Use a hair dryer for awhile, or a heat gun more quickly to heat it up some and slide the gun in and out, and you will reform the kydex so it is looser and problem solved. The trigger guard, on mine had a deeper divot in the trigger guard than necessary.

If you screw it up, contact customer service at alien gear and they will send new parts no charge. I really doubt you will screw it up it's very easy. I'm just letting you know about the replacement to put your mind at ease. I'm doing a combination, gun and sight that they don't make a holster for, and I spoke with them about using a dremel, and the heat and they volunteered that they would still cover it.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 03:04 PM   #9
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I tried AG IWB holsters... just never got them to work for me... if it wasnt this, it was that. Way to much fuggin around with them all the time. And they were the most uncomfortable holsters i ever had. Sorry i couldnt be of more help, but it sounds like you`re going thru the learning phase with AG holsters as i did... i learned to never to buy another one. I gave mine all away... best loss of money i ever spent.
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