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Old February 5th, 2017, 06:14 PM   #31
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No, but I have a lot of shooting experience with DA rebolvers and DA/SA autos, so I can shoot pretty much anything effectively.

That said, I didn't do the upgrades to play games better. Same as with my 1911's; I enjoy working on pistols, and perform upgrades to make them better.
Fair enough, I'd like to add some apex stuff for the same reaosn.
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Old March 15th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #32
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I am 86 & still love to shoot. I have shot a large amount of the newer guns & have just gotten a new ported Shield 9. I really like it better than any of any of my last guns. The recoil was a lot less than most that I have shot in a long time. I am interested in a M&P 9c & I was wondering if the later models have an improved trigger like the Shield or if a new M2 9c might be coming out.

You can see I don't really want to wait on it too long. I had a P99c & I really liked the gun & trigger but the fit in your hand was bad, not like the M&P 9c.
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I am 86 & still love to shoot. I have shot a large amount of the newer guns & have just gotten a new ported Shield 9. I really like it better than any of any of my last guns. The recoil was a lot less than most that I have shot in a long time. I am interested in a M&P 9c & I was wondering if the later models have an improved trigger like the Shield or if a new M2 9c might be coming out.

You can see I don't really want to wait on it too long. I had a P99c & I really liked the gun & trigger but the fit in your hand was bad, not like the M&P 9c.
My 9c was made in 2013, and did seem to have a better trigger than the '08 9c that I used to have.

That said, I gave it an Apex sear and striker block, while retaining the stock trigger return and striker springs. It's what I do with all my M&P's that I intend to carry. I get a better trigger pull for less $$ than buying one of their duty/carry kits.
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Thanks Rick , I had one of the first Shields & did not like it a bit. It was so hard to rack, I couldn't do it. You don't get any stronger with age . Your fingers & hands get weaker by a lot. I tried the new ported one & it was way better & I could rack it.

I've looked at the 9c a lot & just yesterday looked at an older new 40 & I could rack it & it did feel good in my hand. I sure don't want a 40.
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Thanks Rick , I had one of the first Shields & did not like it a bit. It was so hard to rack, I couldn't do it. You don't get any stronger with age . Your fingers & hands get weaker by a lot. I tried the new ported one & it was way better & I could rack it.

I've looked at the 9c a lot & just yesterday looked at an older new 40 & I could rack it & it did feel good in my hand. I sure don't want a 40.
Gene, i know your comment was directed to Rick, but i just wanted to chime in without disrespect to Rick. (sorry rick)

I would hold off for the 9c M2.0 to come out. I guarantee it will be worth the wait. Its coming, just hang in there. Like you, my hands are crippled from nerve damage from a very bad spine injury, so i totally know where your coming from with weakness`s and getting older and having to rack these slides. And by the way, at your age and still shooting, god bless you.
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PaPow, I always enjoy hearing from you. I was hoping you would answer me on a new M2 9c. I figured that S&W would be out with a 9c in M2 soon. Is there a difference in the later 9c triggers from the older bad one's or is it just luck.

I do like thinner gun handles & my hands are fairly large. I love the feel of the Shield with just Talon grips on it. I have shot a lot of PPK's & Walther PP's & they are really the most accurate small gun made.The trouble with them is they weigh more than a Shield by at least 4 oz & are about the same size. I think the 380 PPK has as much recoil as my ported Shield. About 6 years ago I put 7 shots from a WW2 PPK 32 into a 1&1/2" circle at 25" The 32 is the most accurate & very easy to rack & shoot.

I had a CCP 9 & it shot great & accurate because it has a fixed barrel. It never gave me any trouble except they are a bear to take apart & have a very bad reputation for trouble. I traded it for my Shield. They are the easiest racking 9mm made with their gas piston. It is a neat gun, but is made by Umarex, not Walther itself. I would have kept it if Walther had made it. I do like my ported Shield better, & that is why I was thinking of a M&P 9c.
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PaPow, another question, have you shot a ported or unported Shield or 9c 45? How much harder are they in recoil than a 9mm? My gun dealer is a friend & we shoot together a little. I shoot his guns & I shot his Nighthawk 45 & it was not bad at al & very accurate. He has a 9 too. I first shot 45's in the military back in the late 1940's. Couldn't hit much with those guns as they were from WW2.
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PaPow, another question, have you shot a ported or unported Shield or 9c 45? How much harder are they in recoil than a 9mm? My gun dealer is a friend & we shoot together a little. I shoot his guns & I shot his Nighthawk 45 & it was not bad at al & very accurate. He has a 9 too. I first shot 45's in the military back in the late 1940's. Couldn't hit much with those guns as they were from WW2.
I have a standard 45 Shield; not ported.

They definitely recoil more than the 9mm's, though folks have reported that the 45 recoil is less offensive than the 40 calibers.

I've never been recoil sensitive, so it's a non-issue for me. That said; several folks I let shoot the 45 Shield commented that "it recoiled less than they were expecting."

Now, based on your self-described condition; the effort required to rack the slide may be a deal breaker for you.

The slides on all of my 1911's except my Baer are easily racked.

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Thanks Rick, thats the way I felt when I shot my friends Nighthawk & his CZ 40. The 40 was terrible & I can see why the FBI is going back from the 40 to the 9. His 45 was not bad, but harder than a 9.

When I started using the Handi Racker, it makes racking most guns easy, or at least way easier. You could carry one with you as they are small ,1/2" x3"x4". I do want to be able to rack what I carry, but not do it a lot. I'm nearly Bionic, with 2 hips & a knee & both wrists surgery's for carpel tunnel. I just get up in the morning & squirt some oil & away I go. They all work fine.
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PaPow, I love your Trump quote, I voted my first time for Eisenhower in 52, but I had met Harry Truman when my Uncle introduced me to him at the 44 St. Louis world series. My uncle was the sports editor then. Truman was running with Roosevelt then.

Sorry to hear about your injury, the Handi Racker will help you a lot. I know it makes an impossible rack easy. The Handi Racker & Uplula make shooting way, way easier.
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PaPow, I love your Trump quote, I voted my first time for Eisenhower in 52, but I had met Harry Truman when my Uncle introduced me to him at the 44 St. Louis world series. My uncle was the sports editor then. Truman was running with Roosevelt then.

Sorry to hear about your injury, the Handi Racker will help you a lot. I know it makes an impossible rack easy. The Handi Racker & Uplula make shooting way, way easier.
Hi Gene,
Trump supporter all the way... i couldn`t even imagine what would happen if Hill-Billy clinton had won. My only problem with trump is, he needs to keep his mouth shut and just do what he said he would do during the campaign. A good start is to gut&cut the gov`t in half. Restore all gun rights back to the lawful people of our country. REMOVE CUOMO FROM POWER IN NY STATE...! Make NYC a state so they cant bother us with knee-jerk gun control anymore.

As to your comments earlier, Rick M said it best. And yes, i have several PC guns, some ported, some not. They all have their quirks.

As to what i think of the M&P 9c, good gun. And the newer later versions do have better triggers than the first ones that came out years ago. But, keep in mind, the 9c will rack a little harder than the standard fullsize M&P`s. The 9c has a shorter slide which negates a shorter stouter recoil spring, thats why its a tiny bit harder to rack, but still manageable to rack, even for guys like you an me. I`m waiting for the M2.0 in 9c to hit the market... its coming, be patient. It WILL BE worth the wait. I myself have to wait until its released in a 10 round version due to the communistic NY state i live in.

2018 ELECTION, CUOMO, WE`RE COMING FOR ALL OF YOU NY LIBTARDS, COUNT ON IT...!!!!!!!!!!


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PaPow, I just read what the CEO of S&W said, That they will have the whole family of Mo2 guns as they will do them all. I will wait for it. Seems like I have spent my life waiting for a new gun to come out. I waited for the S&W P39, & the H&K P7, the Kahr, & Kel Tec 9mm 10 shot, the Shield & on & on. Problem is, I can't wait as long as I used to but it is fun.
I remember waiting to get the .50 cents for the Texan Jr. My big brother had a dollar so he got the big Texan. Boy can I remember guns, even from the mid 1930's.
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Also waiting on SW to release the MOD 2.0 Compact but in .40 cal or maybe even in .45

Do I want another 40 or another 45 decisions decisions.


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PaPow, I just read what the CEO of S&W said, That they will have the whole family of Mo2 guns as they will do them all. I will wait for it. Seems like I have spent my life waiting for a new gun to come out. I waited for the S&W P39, & the H&K P7, the Kahr, & Kel Tec 9mm 10 shot, the Shield & on & on. Problem is, I can't wait as long as I used to but it is fun.
I remember waiting to get the .50 cents for the Texan Jr. My big brother had a dollar so he got the big Texan. Boy can I remember guns, even from the mid 1930's.
Yup they`re comin... just have to wait i guess...lol. Personally, like you, i`m having a hard time waiting too, we aren`t getting any younger by golly...lol. It will be interesting when my M2.0 Performance Center 9L gets here. Another thing i hope we get to see from S&W, is ALL the shields in some sort of M2.0 design... i would LOVE the option to change the grips on the shield guns.

The oldest gun i have in my safe is a 1902 in really good condition. Its a tiny take-down .22 rifle. Its a single shot rolling block design. If i remember correctly without digging it out, its a Remington Model 6. Its very accurate out to 50yds. Its to nice to take out, so it lives in my gun safe. It was given to me many many years ago by an old friend of mine... it belonged to his father. He gave it to me because he knew i would take really good care of it and never sell it. I thought thru the years that i would have a grandson to hand it down to, but my wife an i never had any kids of our own. One day, and probably son, i have a couple friends with some good kids. i`ll likely hand it down to one of them to carry on the shootin tradition of us old coots.
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Yup they`re comin... just have to wait i guess...lol. Personally, like you, i`m having a hard time waiting too, we aren`t getting any younger by golly...lol. It will be interesting when my M2.0 Performance Center 9L gets here. Another thing i hope we get to see from S&W, is ALL the shields in some sort of M2.0 design... i would LOVE the option to change the grips on the shield guns.

The oldest gun i have in my safe is a 1902 in really good condition. Its a tiny take-down .22 rifle. Its a single shot rolling block design. If i remember correctly without digging it out, its a Remington Model 6. Its very accurate out to 50yds. Its to nice to take out, so it lives in my gun safe. It was given to me many many years ago by an old friend of mine... it belonged to his father. He gave it to me because he knew i would take really good care of it and never sell it. I thought thru the years that i would have a grandson to hand it down to, but my wife an i never had any kids of our own. One day, and probably son, i have a couple friends with some good kids. i`ll likely hand it down to one of them to carry on the shootin tradition of us old coots.
PaPow, you can adopt me, I am already potty trained, well mostly, and I am already thru the terrible two's, and my wife ask me all the time when am I going to grow up.....I had three old double barrel shotguns that my father left me, 2 12ga, and one 16ga, very nice old guns, was going to give my son one, and the other two for my nephews, but we have a family member who has a drug problem, she broke in when we were in Georgia and took them, I reported them stolen, but I know I will never see them again. My insurance covered some of it, but not much.
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