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Old March 18th, 2017, 06:18 PM   #46
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PaPow, you can adopt me, I am already potty trained, well mostly, and I am already thru the terrible two's, and my wife ask me all the time when am I going to grow up.....I had three old double barrel shotguns that my father left me, 2 12ga, and one 16ga, very nice old guns, was going to give my son one, and the other two for my nephews, but we have a family member who has a drug problem, she broke in when we were in Georgia and took them, I reported them stolen, but I know I will never see them again. My insurance covered some of it, but not much.
Ok, i will adopt you, just as soon as Brian K and Rick M`s adoption papers get signed, then i`ll get yours started next...lol.

Hey budd, sorry for your loss... that just sucks
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Old March 19th, 2017, 06:28 AM   #47
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PaPow, you forgot me. I'm worth adopting & between my wife & I we have 6 kids. We have been married 50 years and are waiting to see if it works before we have any more. I still have a Marlin lever action 22 I bought nearly 60 years ago.
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Old March 19th, 2017, 08:06 AM   #48
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PaPow, you forgot me. I'm worth adopting & between my wife & I we have 6 kids. We have been married 50 years and are waiting to see if it works before we have any more. I still have a Marlin lever action 22 I bought nearly 60 years ago.

Ok, your on my list...lol
Anybody else want on the list...????...lol
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No, just move me to the front....ha
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Old March 21st, 2017, 06:45 PM   #50
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Ok, i will adopt you, just as soon as Brian K and Rick M`s adoption papers get signed, then i`ll get yours started next...lol.

Hey budd, sorry for your loss... that just sucks
Excellent!

If you ever get down this way; I'll introduce you to a couple of my grandkids.

Here's the grandson when he was a newborn, along with his middle sister:

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ok ok ok, i`m a softy, you`re ALL on the front of the list...HAAAA
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Excellent!

If you ever get down this way; I'll introduce you to a couple of my grandkids.

Here's the grandson when he was a newborn, along with his middle sister:

Adorable
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Update: after listening to people with more knowledge on these guns than me, I decided to keep the stock trigger and learn to use it, after many rounds, and many nights dry firing with snap caps, I have come to love the trigger, and do quite well with it. The gritty, spongy feel is gone, and whats left is a trigger that I enjoy very much.....thanks to all you guys that helped me....
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Chase31, It's great to hear what you said about your trigger. I have never changed a trigger, maybe because I am lazy or happy with the way it shoots. I seem to do well enough to make me happy. I am getting closer to buying a 9c with a safety. I have got to tell PaPow , you can't wait too long when you are ancient.

Has anyone heard about the 9c M2.0 yet? When I get in heat, it is hard to wait for a new gun.

By the way Rick, your grandkids are beautiful. That little girl is really cute.
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Chase31, It's great to hear what you said about your trigger. I have never changed a trigger, maybe because I am lazy or happy with the way it shoots. I seem to do well enough to make me happy. I am getting closer to buying a 9c with a safety. I have got to tell PaPow , you can't wait too long when you are ancient.

Has anyone heard about the 9c M2.0 yet? When I get in heat, it is hard to wait for a new gun.

By the way Rick, your grandkids are beautiful. That little girl is really cute.
Thank you Sir!
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Chase31, It's great to hear what you said about your trigger. I have never changed a trigger, maybe because I am lazy or happy with the way it shoots. I seem to do well enough to make me happy. I am getting closer to buying a 9c with a safety. I have got to tell PaPow , you can't wait too long when you are ancient.

Has anyone heard about the 9c M2.0 yet? When I get in heat, it is hard to wait for a new gun.

By the way Rick, your grandkids are beautiful. That little girl is really cute.
I got no problem owning a 9C, GREAT gun, just needs attention on the trigger components.

You got a couple years on me Gene, but the older i get, the word ancient hits me in the face every morning i wake up an look in the mirror...lol.

You`re right, Rick is a lucky guy, beautiful grandbabies
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9c trigger

I took up shooting about 2 years ago after I retired so my experience is limited. My range gun is a CZ75b, so I know about trigger creep... the CZ has a lot of creep. For the first 1,000 rounds, there was plenty of gritty creep but it has smoothed itself out.
Now I just bought the M&P Shield 9c for CC and I'm not terribly enthused about the trigger but after reading other's take on this problem, I'm very confused. My 9c has no creep. initial travel is slack until you get to the reset and then it breaks like glass. Yet I'm hearing others talk about grittiness. I always thought grit was the lack of smoothness on the creep but how can you have grit without creep? Could someone explain this? Have I been using incorrect terminology all along? I have never owned a striker fired weapon so this is a big change for me.
My problem is the force needed to release the striker is so high, it moves my front sight off target. Even on dry fire, the front sight moves off target every time I fire. I expect to need a lot of practice on this striker fired weapon. Can anyone give me some hints that may help?
Normally, I would either polish the trigger or install a better one but this is going to be my only CCW. It has a trigger safety instead of the thumb safety and I'm afraid reducing trigger pull would make carrying one in the chamber a bit dangerous, yet bad marksmanship could kill me too!
Any words of wisdom?
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I changed to a S&W M&P Performance Center sear in my 9 mm Shield which reduced the trigger pull weight down to approx. 5.25 lbs. I then experimented with different combinations of striker blocks and springs to see which combination was the most smooth. I tested over and over and over again. I found that the more rounded M&P PC striker block combined with the APEX striker block spring (available from APEX for $3.00) made for the smoothest trigger. the APEX spring is lighter and the the spring hole in the S&W striker block is slightly deeper than the APEX striker block so there isn't an excessive amount of tension on that spring with this combination which yielded a 4.75 lb trigger pull. The next best combination was using the APEX striker block combined with the APEX spring which is still very smooth and which also yields a 4.75 lb trigger pull. I chose to keep this combination in the gun for a little more tension on the striker block spring. For a carry gun I wouldn't use an Apex sear (which drops the trigger weight too far for me) without buying the whole APEX DCAEK kit as I would want to use the heavier Apex trigger return spring in order to prevent risking the trigger pull weight going down into the high 3 lb range once the parts are broken in. To me, that's too light of a trigger for a carry gun. For my use, the PC sear works best while they are hard to find. My Shield with PC sear and APEX striker block and spring has a very smooth trigger with no over-travel and with a very short reset which is both tactile and readily audible. I can't imagine how it could be improved for my purposes. Interestingly, just using the APEX spring combined with the stock not rounded M&P striker block reduced the grit in the trigger pre-travel substantially, so it seems that much of the grit is taken out just by using a lighter spring with a more rounded striker block than the stock one doing the rest. As others have said, if one wants to reduce the gritty trigger feel without reducing the trigger pull weight, just replacing the striker block and spring will take care of that.

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