M&P 40c-Problems-Back to S&W

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Old October 6th, 2007, 08:11 AM   #1
 
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M&P 40c-Problems-Back to S&W

This 40c, bought 4 months ago new, now with 600+ rounds through it(Speer) has to go back because of the following:

(1)- After 450+ rounds, the mag started dropping after several shot. New mag release sent to me still produced the drop problem. Reversing the release(from Left to Rt side) hasn't produced the problem but have only put a 100 rounds throuh it since.

(2)- Again, after about 450 rounds, the gun would fail to load the last or second to the bullet from the mag. Looking into the breach showed the bullet sitting in the mag, level and straight and was not tilted trying to go into the chamber.



Talking with the S&W service department, was told send it back and they sent me a prepaid UPS label. Has anyone out there had these problems??? and how were they fixed??
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Old October 6th, 2007, 08:18 AM   #2
 
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The magdrop problem is well documented on this board. Had no problems here, but I have read testimony about S&W's loyalty to their customers. They will take care of you is the bottom line. You may even get a little present in the return packet for your inconvenience

What is the serial number of your gun? This allows us to compare it, and see how old / which revision your pistol could be. Mine is MPN1xxx, and I've never had any problems at all.
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Old October 6th, 2007, 08:23 AM   #3
 
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Thanks for the info. I received their prepaid label to mail it back Monday. I know their service is excellent, it's just the doubt that these failure place in the mind. My 340PD backup is a necessary evil.



Maybe a nice gift . . . how about a matching pair of one 40c and one new 45c
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Old October 11th, 2007, 04:30 PM   #4
 
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As a FYI . . .



My 40C was received this Tues, 10/9 by the S&W factory. I called today to see if they had looked at it as yet. I was told that because the S&W plant was closed down for inventory all last week that it would probably be a least 2 or more weeks before they would get to it and it could be even longer to fix/correct it.



Problems were mag drops and failure to feed the last bullet in the mag while shooting.



Dissapointing!
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Old October 12th, 2007, 07:40 PM   #5
 
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The feeding problem you describe I don't think can be blamed on the pistol. I have the same problem with the two mags S&W sent me as part of their promotion. They are mag related, not pistol related.



I think the spring in the new mags is too tense. I have 10 rounds in them now, compressing the spring a little. Hopefully that will take care of it. I did the same thing with the two mags that came with the gun, and they never had that problem.
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Old October 12th, 2007, 07:53 PM   #6
 
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Losing faith in the 40C . . . probably a time for a change

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You could be in the ballpark with the feed problem but the second problem was that 3 different mags were dropping like flies during the last 100 round. How about shortening the spring a tad???



As much as I hate to say it, when the 40C comes back and goes through a 100 rounds with no problem, I'm most likely going to take a loss and sell it. This one was produced in January 07



I've lost faith in it and failure at the wrong time will cost me my life. They look great, feel great and look sexy but when you pull the trigger and they don't go bang, it's time to cut your losses and move on, unfortunately!!! It looks like if you want near 100% bang all of the time, go with a revolver!!! Of course the next Q is, S&W? I have a 340PD as a backup.



I bought S&W semiauto because I thought it was one of the best. I've had/used Glock's for years with almost with no failure but I don't like their feel and the way they handle.



I hate to waste money and I'm coming to the conclusion that this 40C was a waste of money.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 07:41 AM   #7
 
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If you still feel this way after putting some rounds through let me know. I am in the market for a 40c. I have been fortunate in that I have had no malfunctions with either the 9c (over 1500 rounds) or the 40 full size (over 500 rounds). I know it can be frusterating to have issues with a weapon, and sometimes even if it is fixed you can never over come that doubt in the back of your mind. I hope that S&W makes this right for you, and you are able to rebuild some trust in the weapon.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 07:50 AM   #8
 
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If you still feel this way after putting some rounds through let me know. I am in the market for a 40c. I hope that S&W makes this right for you, and you are able to rebuild some trust in the weapon.


-->> Thanks for the reply . . . thanks for the offer. I will keep you in mind. Doubt is a worst disease than the actual confirmed knowledge of something. I hope S&W gets this one right.
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Hmm, Weapon malfunctions. Manufacture pays for return shipping and will honor guarantee and return it it too you. You say it feels good etc... Not to sound like a wisenheimer but weapons are mechanical and each and every handgun in time will need to be serviced. I feel bad for you and your situation and what ever way it turns out I hope all will be well with you.



Give S&W and that M&P another try.



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Old October 13th, 2007, 04:50 PM   #10
 
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Give S&W and that M&P another try.



Good Luck,

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Don't misunderstand . . . mechanical things do break down, regardless of price.



The frustration comes from reading this and other forums concerning to 40c and the folks that are suffering the same problems and in many cases, repeated returns to S&W to fix them. Yes, S&W's service and on-line folks do go out of their way to try and help. But tthe problems I am having should have been picked up early in their quality control program. Repeated mag drops and failure to feed would have been something that would have been picked up if the needed testing was done.



I need to have confidence in my primary weapon, that it works, period. Repeats of the same problem after repeated returns for repairs tells me sufficient testing most likely was not done.
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Old October 14th, 2007, 08:36 AM   #11
 
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Enjoy your glock. Good Bye.
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Gentlemen, there is no need for name calling here.



The 'enjoy your GLOCKS' statement was at least accurate as I've put may 1000's of rounds through the two I had but never cared for the way they felt and the full size ones 'print' too easily. The 40c filled the bill for size, feel and good accuracy but repeated failures put it in the big doubt list.



I should have asked about going to an alloy or steel mid or small size as a primary carry, even going to a revolver as my primary. Other folks have provided suggestions on model that work and may fill the bill.



Everybody has an opinion and those opinions help folks make a better informed buying decision.
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Enjoy your glock. Good Bye.


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My 9c did this also, dropping mags after 300-400 rounds. Sent it back to S&W after the 1000 round mark and they replaced the mag catch, no problems after 200 rounds. Let us know how it goes.
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