KRWeiss

Yes, at 1-800-331-0852.

KalashnaCough

ive done some thinking while looking at the frame to mag fit. with the slide off, and the mag inserted, i placed a dial indicator on a stand with the plunger on the back of the mag. when i pushed the mag towards the front of the grip towards the mag catch, i zeroed the indicator. i then pushed back on the mag to see how much front to back the mag had in the magwell. it moved .060 " which is substantial considering that the catch notches arent that deep. also, it seems the mag follower hits the catch? im starting to see how poor of a design the magwell and catch are. im assuming i got an out of spec frame or something, because the mag just moves too much to feed reliably.

it really is a shame, i love the feel and function of this weapon. so accurate. i called S&W but they operate M-F.

MaddMax

Not to worry. They'll fix it and on their own dime.

KalashnaCough

thanks man, good to be reassured haha. ive been stressing over it, because i really do love everything about the gun so far. my favorite polymer pistol trigger so far. and ive owned just about all the major polys.

x10

There have been rumblings about mags dropping from time to time, While I haven't had the problem I did order 3 extra mag realeases from Midway, I think they were $3.50 (i think) so I have 2 for spares and one I built up with an epoxy type substance called P7 sold locally and made my own extended mag release and it works great.

If a local shop or somebody had a mag release you might get one and check it out,

I'm 100% happy with Smith on thier warranty (I had a MP-22 issue) and they will make it painless as possible but if you spent $4 and didn't have to do any mailing it might be worth it.

Remember they are going to send it back signature required. Which gets me everytime.

Good luck

KalashnaCough

i called and talked to S&W today. The CS guy was very helpful and respectful, as well as sympathetic to my situation. he sent me two new mag catches to try, and if that doesnt work, he said they have had out of spec frames. hopefully the catch fixes it, because this gun is awesome. makes my HK USP feel like overpriced crap...

overall, im happy S&W stands by their product and is trying to fix the problem

M4Gunner

whoah.... pump yer brakes there, champ! NOTHING about H&K is crap. expensive? yes. crap? no. HK paved a LOT of the road modern poly guns travel.

jasonuscg

HK's price is crap.

I almost sniffed the HK glue a few times but I saw what all those mall ninjas are like, so I want no part of it.

KalashnaCough

Far from crappy, but they did nothing better than any of my 500 dollar glocks, XD's, or my new m&p. And they cost twice as much.

KRWeiss

Now measure your Glock, bet you it's similar.

Center Mass

I agree, I have a USP .40 FS and that is one fine gun. I have over 1500 rounds through this gun in just under 2 months. Not one issue of any kind, and very accurate. This gun is quality from top to bottom, no doubt about it. I would trust my life to this gun without question. Is it expensive? Yes! Is it worth it? Yes! Are my Glock 19 and M&P .40 solid guns? Absolutely! My Glock is the gun I have owned the longest of the 3 mentioned and it has over 6500 trouble free rounds through it so far. You can't ask for more than that for reliabilty.

My M&P has only 100 trouble free rounds so far as I just picked it up today from my FFL. I still know the M&P line is solid, but so far of the 3 it is the last one I would grab right now if I needed a gun to defend myself. Not because I think the M&P is any less reliable, but this gun is new to me and I have to put a few hundred more down the pipe just to get that warm fuzzy feeling. I have fired a few hundred rounds through the M&P without issue before buying one, but that was not my gun and I need to get more rounds down range just to make sure it can be trusted without doubt. I am sure it will not let me down in the end. My point is I don't regret buying my HK USP, even if it is almost twice the cost of the other two combined.

M4Gunner

Yes, they ARE very expensive, BUT.. who cares what mall ninjas carry. They only carry them because that must be whats in the latest video game. however.. there is no denying the outright quality they bring.

M4Gunner

i would verture to say they will print a tighter group, consistently. by no means am I saying that you cant be as accurate as necessary with any on the $500 guns you mentioned, but.. if you benched all 4 guns mentioned, I would say the HK will outshoot them.

M4Gunner

Im in the same boat at this point, and agree fully. Ive only got about 150 rounds downrange with my new M&P 40, and I anticipate no problems. but, I still have to prove it to myself.

KalashnaCough

yeah, but the Glocks mag catch contacts on a radius which touches the front and side of the mag, not just a little tab on the catch and a small notch on the mag like the m&p. also, the notch on the glock is separated from the ammo and the follower by a metal liner unlike the M&P.

KalashnaCough

if they do, its not much, and these are all combat pistols, not bullseye pistols... also, im no bench. i still cannot shoot better than the guns. im sure someone out there can split hairs with their HK, but thats not what i buy these sidearms for. If i can shoot 2-3'' groups at 15-25 yards, im happy. its sufficient for SD.

This thread kinda went off track. Im not taking any thing away from HK. fine pistols. ive owned a couple. i just hate when people act like their USP is lightyears more advanced than my Glock or M&P, XDM, etc, because in the hands of anything less than a seasoned professional pistol shooter, they do nothing better in a combat/self defense situation. except look way prettier.


i guess the main theme to take from this thread is that I like my new M&P.

M4Gunner

ME TOO!!

KRWeiss

Prove the fallacy of one rhetorical "complaint" and you seamlessly move on to another.

Current followers never contact the magazine catch. I've had 9 M&P pistols in my collection and never had an unintentional magazine drop, in well over 100,000 rounds. I blame that on the M&P design, too.

KalashnaCough

good to hear your M&P pistols have worked for ya.

im not looking for negative things to post about the M&P platform. I love the gun. As with all mass produced things, a few defective parts get past QC and make it to the consumer. The mag catch doesnt work. fails under recoil. its well documented that others have had this issue. im not a liar.

Other than that, its my favorite poly gun ever.