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Old November 29th, 2007, 05:16 PM   #31
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Hi to all...

Another new B here...rather discouraged to here of this mag dropping issue, since I am planning on purchasing the MP 40 tomorrow. :roll:

I was reading a couple of reviews which gave it high remarks, but stumbling upon this site it may change my mind. I think I will call my local gun shop tomorrow and get his input on any late updates.



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Old November 29th, 2007, 05:30 PM   #32
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I don't know what "late updates" you're looking for, but generally speaking, this forum is more informed than most dealers. That would include knowledge of flys in the ointment, so to speak. Some dealers don't even know about the "mag dropping issue". FWIW, it does appear that current production pistols are doing very well, and its possible this problem has been fixed.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 05:32 PM   #33
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RJ... if your gunshop is like most, I wouldn't rely on much of anything that they would say. Honestly, most of them dispense self serving commentary (non uncommonly false) and many are, frankly, ignorant of many issues which they appear to be "expert" on. I wouldn't believe ANYTHING a gunshop sales person tells me until I confirm it a half a dozen times fro other neutral parties. Between shoppers and salespeople, there is a lot of BS circulating in and around gunshops. Granted some people are quite knowledgeable and totally UN-selfserving, but quite a few are cocky know-it-alls that really don't know much at all. Same applies to the internet! ;-)
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Old November 29th, 2007, 06:45 PM   #34
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I don't know what "late updates" you're looking for, but generally speaking, this forum is more informed than most dealers. That would include knowledge of flys in the ointment, so to speak. Some dealers don't even know about the "mag dropping issue". FWIW, it does appear that current production pistols are doing very well, and its possible this problem has been fixed.


Thanks for both yours and DHart's reply's. It appears most of the problems I have read about here are dated from several months ago.

I hope the problem is fixed, and I will probably go ahead and purchase the full size MP 40



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ps...after spending a lot of time on the glock talk site, I find this one refreshing. 8)
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Old December 25th, 2007, 04:50 PM   #35
 
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I have changed the mag release to other side & found it is a lot stiffer to push (at least so far) than before. It also appears to engage the mag more positively where as before the slightest pressure would case the mag to drop.

I'll give a couple of hundred & see how it goes,I actually don't mind the mag release with the trigger finger, think I could get quite used to it.But I will be contacting S&W about the catch operation.
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Old December 26th, 2007, 08:37 PM   #36
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34 replies and maybe 2 serial numbers posted.



I'd like to know what serial number ranges this problem is affecting. MP? Are the newest Rev. O guns having this issue?
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Old December 26th, 2007, 09:27 PM   #37
 
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34 replies and maybe 2 serial numbers posted.



I'd like to know what serial number ranges this problem is affecting. MP? Are the newest Rev. O guns having this issue?


MP9 Serial # MPJ3853 if that helps
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Old December 29th, 2007, 03:04 PM   #38
 
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New M&P .40

Serial number MPM61XX

Blazer loads Approx 200 rounds through

Mag release was switched to right side on this gun when I bought it.



Test fire date was 2/2007.



and the list grows. If I had not gotten a second gun with this problem, I would have felt a little better about using it for daily carry.
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Old January 21st, 2008, 08:43 AM   #39
 
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So what to do?

Do most of you recommend sending the gun back S&W to fix this problem, wait it out until you "X" number of rounds hoping it goes away?, or what?



My new M&P is dropping Mags like rain in Seattle, I'm in no way touching the mag release button. It had about 400 rounds through when the problem started.
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Old January 21st, 2008, 09:05 AM   #40
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When my FS had the issue, I called S&W and asked for a MAG CATCH, they promptly sent one in the mail. I installed with no issues and problem has been solved, with no issues. My suggestion is that you call S&W and do the same as I did, you wont have to wait for your weapon to be shipped to and from S&W.
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Old January 21st, 2008, 09:20 AM   #41
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The first thing you should do is call and get a replacement mag catch. I firmly believe that if you have a gun which has experienced mag drops, it's a good idea to keep a spare catch in your range bag.



If replacing the catch (which is easy to do) doesn't make the problem go away, you have an issue with your frame and the gun needs to go back to Smith.
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Old January 21st, 2008, 11:05 AM   #42
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I should add that some of us have fired anywhere from two or three hundred up to five or six hundred rounds with the replacement catch (even with a second replacement catch) without problems only to have the problem begin again.



Just don't be too confident that replacing the mag catch will solve your problem. It may. Or it may not.



Only time and shooting it a LOT will tell. What you don't want to do is shoot a hundred or two hundred rounds with the new catch, presume the problem is solved for good and rely on the gun for defense without much more shooting.



I'd suggest testing for at least 1000 (1500 would be better) without having any mag drops and without finding significant wear on the mag catch engagement surface before deciding to rely on the gun for defense use.
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Old January 21st, 2008, 11:18 AM   #43
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Brownell's list part# 277890000 with a stock number of 940-000-963 which is a Magazine Catch,

for a whooping $3.64. If you cant afford that, I am sure S&W will send you one as they have done before...
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Old January 21st, 2008, 01:22 PM   #44
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Smith has gone through multiple iterations of the mag catch, and the current version I think is seventh (Rev. F). I spoke to the Pistol Engineering Manager for S&W last week and they are confident current-production guns will never develop the problem.



SO it's quite possible that someone had the problem, got a "new" catch that still wasn't the final revision, and had the problem again. Also, as I understand it (and this was not from the Pistol Engineering Mgr) some frames from a certain time period are far enough out of spec that replacement of the frame is the only solution.
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Just to be on the safe side, I'm sending mine in. I emailed S&W and they got back to me in FIVE minutes with an RGA. Now that is what I call service.
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