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Old January 1st, 2017, 01:51 PM   #1
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Want to buy a M&P 9mm or .40

Went to local gun shop a check out Glocks and M&Ps. The 9mm M&P just felt right as soon as I put in my hand. My question is there are so many models to chose from and want the best bang for my buck.Will be using it for target shooting (just for fun) and home protection. I mostly do not understand the No Internal Lock Model, No Magazine Safety thing. I want a easy to use gun and a safe one.Thanks to all who reply.Richard
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Old January 1st, 2017, 09:12 PM   #2
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Welcome to our little corner of the net!

IMHO If you want the safest model, get the model with the magazine safety. Here's my reasoning, one of the classic accidents with any auto pistol is where the owner drops the magazine out of the pistol, then pulls the trigger and it goes off, this type of accident has injured a lot of people and even killed a few, with the magazine safety model this is impossible since it cannot fire if the magazine has been removed.

Some will argue that you should never let a mechanical device get in the way of proper safety procedures, and they are right, but in the real world people sometimes get a little careless and that model is somewhat safer.
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 01:25 AM   #3
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I respect G56's opinion, probably more than anyone else on this board, we just disagree on this subject. If I'm doing a tactical reload (swapping out a used mag with a fresh one before its empty) and need to defend myself before the magazine is seated, I can't discharge my weapon with a magazine disconnect engaged.

The first few M&P pistols we owned included a magazine disconnect, and it was fine for range work and training purposes. After becoming fairly proficient with these firearms it became more important for my M&P40 to always be ready to fire, even during tactical reloads, so we removed the optional magazine safeties and replaced them with the readily available factory spring.

As with so many things in this business, you need to decide what's best for you.

As to caliber, it's not likely you'll get a definitive answer here. Too many fan boys on different sides of the issue. Many folks like the 9mm because of the light recoil and faster recovery, others prefer the harder hitting 40S&W, still others prefer more consistent penetration & the big hole the 45 ACP leaves. I prefer the M&P40 myself, but I'm a taller guy with an athletic build, and a little extra recoil doesn't bother me all that much.

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Old January 2nd, 2017, 06:32 AM   #4
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Your gonna get a lot of personal recommendations. This is mine. Once you decide on which caliber you are going to get, and if it will have a safety or not, just buy a trigger guard to remove any worries of accidental firing. JMO

I have one on all my guns.


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Old January 2nd, 2017, 06:55 AM   #5
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Welcome to the forum. Your first questions and they're ones that have been debated for decades!

I almost commented on this last night and upon further reflection I decided not to. Now I will.

I see both sides of the issue of mag disconnects, but I won't have them on any of my guns for precisely the reason KRW states and yet another.

But for a noob? Here's where I'm torn. I understand G56s reasoning, but I also don't like to have safety relegated to a piece of metal and not have it come out of ones head and safe practices. For that reason I think I mostly lean toward not having a mag disconnect on guns even for noobs. Instead it's training, thought, and safe practices that should take over.

I also thought about a noob buying one with the disconnect and removing it sometime down the road after safety is ingrained. But I trashed that idea because one doesn't disregard safety (trust a mechanical safety) then all of a sudden one is at some point is automatically safe without the mechanical safety.

Again I wouldn't have one on any of my guns, but if someone starts with a mag' disconnect, then stay with it. Good luck if you ever get any guns that don't have it as an option (they abound) and all of a sudden don't know real gun safety. I think it would be an accident waiting to happen. "Now does this gun have the mag' safety or not?", is irrelevant if the gun safety is between the ears. As long as the safety rules are followed one will never have a problem, and I think that's the key. One of those key rules is to always remove the magazine and then check the chamber EVERY TIME a gun is picked up. Even if I have just put a gun down and pick it up a minute later I go through the same mag' then chamber checking ritual. That way no mag safety is ever required and mental safety has taken the place of the mechanical safety. It's just a matter of training, like everything else with firearms. After all we don't give someone "safe ammo" to make firearms safe. Instead we train them to be safe. If someone can't get it through their head about safe gun handling then the answer is for them to never handle firearms, not a mechanical safety.

If the mag' safety is desired to keep the gun safe around family members, then I suggest keeping the gun in a small instant access gun safe.

If I was asked the caliber question 20 years ago the answer then would have been much different than todays answer. Just choose one of the 3 popular cartridges 9mm, .40, .45, use modern quality defensive ammo, and there isn't much difference in effect on the target. For practice it doesn't make any difference what is used. But run a few hundred rounds of the good stuff through the gun to make sure that it's 100% reliable in the gun. 90% reliable, or even 99.9% reliable isn't reliable enough in self defense ammo.
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Safeties are just an excuse to become negligent. They make you relax. Bad thing. No safeties ensure proper training every time. THE GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED AND READY TO FIRE. Want to be safe, buy a safe.
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I'm curious, where do you get that item?


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Your gonna get a lot of personal recommendations. This is mine. Once you decide on which caliber you are going to get, and if it will have a safety or not, just buy a trigger guard to remove any worries of accidental firing. JMO

I have one on all my guns.

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Old January 2nd, 2017, 10:38 AM   #8
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I'm curious, where do you get that item?
Got it on Amazon for around $20. Initially ordered one just to see if they were worth it. They snap on and stay secure. They work so well that I decided to put them on all my guns.
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RO a match with a bunch of shooters with mag disconnects. You will learn to hate them (the guns, not the shooters) really quickly....

I have one gun with mag disconnect, a BHP. I am not a fan of the mag disconnect.
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Sorry John (G56), but i gotta go with Brian`s statement... it just makes good sense to me, and written very well with common sense.

richg1,
go with what fits you very good in the hand, thats half the battle. As for caliber, if you like to shoot alot, the 9mm is the way to go, ammo is by far cheaper than the 40 & 45 calibers. And i do believe, the 9mm defense ammo is more plentiful, at least around here anyway. I like to carry the Federal HST 124gr defense ammo 24/7. My next pick (when i cant find any FedHST124) is the Hornady Critical Duty & Critical Defense ammo. All 3 of my picks hit bulleye`s consistently with my performance center 9mm shield.

As for choice of carry gun... i`ve owned them all, my choice was simple...9mm Shield. It just does what its supposed to do, with no issues whatsoever. It is a very narrow framed gun, it conceals VERY well. I also installed a laser/light combo on it. The Streamlight TLR-6. Fantastic unit...!

Never worry that the 9mm is a poor performer. Todays defense ammo is leaps and bounds over ammo from just 5yrs ago. Never worry if the 9mm will stop somebody(s), it surely will. Also, the shield 9mm carrys more ammo than anything else in its class.

I`ll also add, what works for someone else, might NOT work for you. You have to pin down what works for you. There are to many people just like there are to many opinions. Take advice with a grain of salt and decide what you think works best for you. Whatever you buy my friend, train well with it. And train everyday, but most of all, please use common sense. A lot of people get hurt or killed because somebody thought the gun was safe and or unloaded. All guns are ALL loaded, and thats the mindset you have to train yourself on. Never put your finger inside the trigger guard unless you INTEND to fire the weapon. Any weapon you`re about to pick up, ALWAYS know that it is a loaded weapon, even if it isnt. All pistols need to do 2 things, stay in the holster, or pulling the trigger on the bullseye.
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Your gonna get a lot of personal recommendations. This is mine. Once you decide on which caliber you are going to get, and if it will have a safety or not, just buy a trigger guard to remove any worries of accidental firing. JMO

I have one on all my guns.



Why?
If Im carrying it,it is holstered and I dont see that as a P/C weapon unless you got big pockets.
If Im at the range shooting it I know if it is loaded because if I lay my firearm down while at shooting station etc the mag is dropped and the action is open.
Carrying case to and from car etc unless it is in CC position.

But if it works for you good deal.



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Why?
If Im carrying it,it is holstered and I dont see that as a P/C weapon unless you got big pockets.
If Im at the range shooting it I know if it is loaded because if I lay my firearm down while at shooting station etc the mag is dropped and the action is open.
Carrying case to and from car etc unless it is in CC position.

But if it works for you good deal.



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LOL... i couldn't even imagine that gun in my pocket
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 04:50 PM   #13
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LOL... i couldn't even imagine that gun in my pocket
Tight fit.
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 05:04 PM   #14
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Tight fit.
yez zer....hehehehe
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 05:06 PM   #15
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I will say, ramnj is doing it right, trigger cover is NO DOUBT being safe for sure. I think i would want the string tied to my belt so when i have to rip it out in a defense situation, the guard cover will be ripped clean from the gun.
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