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M&P 2.0 Differences I See

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Old March 22nd, 2017, 08:10 PM   #31
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Long time member...haven't been around much but wanted to see a comparo between 1.0 vs 2.0. Great write-up and pics OP!
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Old April 20th, 2017, 04:42 PM   #32
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Forum limits on # of photos per post are killing me.

Differences between the extractor M&P 2.0 v. 1.0, in addition to ejection port profile changes to improve reliability of cartridge extraction.

Note the addition of a M 2.0 boss ; central buttress for added strength; slight angulation to extractor claw edge ; extractor "adjustment pad" remains the same.
I would speculate that the boss allows for extractor claw linear position stability related to the movement afforded by the oval roll pin aperture.



The increased width of the M2.0 extractor claw is visually obvious.





Caution: Pseudo-science and / or amateur photos may be embedded in this post.

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Old April 20th, 2017, 08:36 PM   #33
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Looks like a nicer taper on the M2.0 claw to allow the rim to get into position better while the round is coming up out of the mag. (if i`m looking at it right)
Whats your thought on that 9werks..?
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The only way I can own one of these is by buying one at around $1,100 here in CA from private party. I want one bad but not at that price. 😑

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The only way I can own one of these is by buying one at around $1,100 here in CA from private party. I want one bad but not at that price. 😑

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Smart move... i wouldnt pay half that price for one if i wanted one.
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Old April 21st, 2017, 01:34 PM   #36
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New member here, just wanted to thank mp9werks for sharing all of his knowledge!
I had been going crazy trying to get the Takedown Lever out of my 2.0 using same method as on the 1.0 to do some mods.
Trigger seems OK, but feel it can be better so will try some polishing and springs.

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Old April 29th, 2017, 01:00 AM   #37
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Waiting for the M&P m2.0 full size in 45 acp, I can purchase the 1.0 today for $50.00 less but there are just to many engineering changes that I see as improvments in the m2.0 so I'll wait.

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Old April 29th, 2017, 06:21 AM   #38
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Waiting for the M&P m2.0 full size in 45 acp, I can purchase the 1.0 today for $50.00 less but there are just to many engineering changes that I see as improvments in the m2.0 so I'll wait.
Frank,
the M2.0 45 is now out, according to these links some others had posted.

https://smga.com/p-125433-smith-and-...6-nms-nts.aspx

https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperst...h-thumb-safety
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Waiting for the M&P m2.0 full size in 45 acp, I can purchase the 1.0 today for $50.00 less but there are just to many engineering changes that I see as improvments in the m2.0 so I'll wait.
For$50 I would also get the 2.0 instead. Now if you 1.0 was $100 less I might seriously consider it.

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Frank,
the M2.0 45 is now out, according to these links some others had posted.

https://smga.com/p-125433-smith-and-...6-nms-nts.aspx

https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperst...h-thumb-safety
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For$50 I would also get the 2.0 instead. Now if you 1.0 was $100 less I might seriously consider it.

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Looks like a nicer taper on the M2.0 claw to allow the rim to get into position better while the round is coming up out of the mag. (if i`m looking at it right)
Whats your thought on that 9werks..?

That may be, but I've yet to have the first FTF or FTE with any of my "1.0" M&P's.
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That may be, but I've yet to have the first FTF or FTE with any of my "1.0" M&P's.
I know buddie, same findings here. I`ve never had an issue either, with ANY of the 1.0`s extractors. Just the triggers an barrels suck on the 1.0

I checked out another M2.0 today... same shitty barrel fitment in full lock up that S&W is famous for in all their semi-auto`s. Barrel to slide fitment (without the recoil spring) still sucks in the M2.0 The M2.0 trigger was still gritty to me... just like the last two i ordered and turned down. I took the slide off, checked the blocker, and there it was, push down, felt like sand in it. The blocker is also VERY flat, which you can feel while running the trigger. The PC guns have more dome, making the trigger bar roll over it MUCH smoother. Everything is fixable no doubt, if you want to spend the time an money on apex parts to make it a better feeling trigger, better shooting gun.

For those that disagree with my thoughts on it, we`ve been down this road before. It obvious that some are happy with the M2.0, i`m surely not as impressed with it as some others are. All i can say is, we all have a difference in standards, and thats ok. If your happy with your M2.0`s, thats all that really matters.
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I know buddie, same findings here. I`ve never had an issue either, with ANY of the 1.0`s extractors. Just the triggers an barrels suck on the 1.0

I checked out another M2.0 today... same shitty barrel fitment in full lock up that S&W is famous for in all their semi-auto`s. Barrel to slide fitment (without the recoil spring) still sucks in the M2.0 The M2.0 trigger was still gritty to me... just like the last two i ordered and turned down. I took the slide off, checked the blocker, and there it was, push down, felt like sand in it. The blocker is also VERY flat, which you can feel while running the trigger. The PC guns have more dome, making the trigger bar roll over it MUCH smoother. Everything is fixable no doubt, if you want to spend the time an money on apex parts to make it a better feeling trigger, better shooting gun.

For those that disagree with my thoughts on it, we`ve been down this road before. It obvious that some are happy with the M2.0, i`m surely not as impressed with it as some others are. All i can say is, we all have a difference in standards, and thats ok. If your happy with your M2.0`s, thats all that really matters.
Yep.

I'm also underwhelmed by an extractor with built in fore and aft slop. And I've never been a S&W detractor. I've always gotten good service out of all my S&W products, including the "1.0" M&P line.

I have put Apex parts in all but a couple, but I also like to "improve" my 1911's; most of which cost several times what the M&P's go for...
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"I'm also underwhelmed by an extractor with built in fore and aft slop."
Rick -

My comments accompanying the extractor photos are just my speculation as to the reason for the obvious oblong shaped retention hole for the extractor roll pin, but can't think of any other reason why it would be designed in that manner.
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