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Old April 17th, 2017, 07:03 AM   #16
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gglass, thats pretty darn good shootin at 3 feet from the target...lol... just kiddin, thats great that you have a good shooter like that, people in my area (known good pistol shooters) aren`t getting those results with the M2.0 in any caliber. I`ve got some first gen M&P`s that shoot that good, AFTER i worked them over, without APEX etc etc etc. Personally, i think its a wash. You either get a good one, or you dont. S&W still convinces me that they are STILL consistently inconsistent... they are production line guns, some are great, some are not so great. You, got a great one apparently.

The fly is now off the ointment
I was pretty hesitant about purchasing the second m2.0 in 9mm, due to some of the spotty accuracy issues of the M&P 1.0s in that caliber, and figured that my accuracy luck would run out. I have to say that I do not see any issues at all with my newer 9mm m2.0, with the exception that it prefers to shoot 147gr ammo to be at a perfect POA/POI. Without changing the sight height, the 115gr bargain bullets shoot just a little low, but that is not an accuracy issue, just a bullet weight preference.

I cannot say that I have had any real accuracy issues with the gen 1 M&Ps or the m2.0 M&Ps. What I am saying is that my new m2.0 M&Ps shoot wonderfully without doing anything to them to make them fit me... I could never say that about the 1.0 M&Ps, where I did grip jobs and APEX upgrades galore. Those upgrades simply are not needed now, and I'm loving it!

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Old April 17th, 2017, 02:38 PM   #17
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I bought a 2.0 in 9mm and it's no better then my others. I'd buy a leftover pro cheap, put a Apex barrel in it and you'll have a kick ass pistol. I bought two 5" pro models and put new barrels in them. This was my MP pro 5" at 25 yards rapid fire 15 rounds, with both eyes open. I lost two low left but the rest are right in there.


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Old April 17th, 2017, 02:51 PM   #18
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I thought they were more accurate had a better barrel and trigger .
My trigger on my 2.0 is better, but the barrel is not as accurate as the semi drop in Apex. I watched the video on how to install, and did both of mine. Buy the file when you buy the barrel, and just take your time. I found it fun to do.
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Old April 17th, 2017, 06:41 PM   #19
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I'd have a tough time spending the $$ to get the 2.0..... If I was buying new I think that I'd pay another $100 for the 2.0 vs 1.0 for the trigger and grip texturing...
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Old April 17th, 2017, 08:02 PM   #20
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I was pretty hesitant about purchasing the second m2.0 in 9mm, due to some of the spotty accuracy issues of the M&P 1.0s in that caliber, and figured that my accuracy luck would run out. I have to say that I do not see any issues at all with my newer 9mm m2.0, with the exception that it prefers to shoot 147gr ammo to be at a perfect POA/POI. Without changing the sight height, the 115gr bargain bullets shoot just a little low, but that is not an accuracy issue, just a bullet weight preference.

I cannot say that I have had any real accuracy issues with the gen 1 M&Ps or the m2.0 M&Ps. What I am saying is that my new m2.0 M&Ps shoot wonderfully without doing anything to them to make them fit me... I could never say that about the 1.0 M&Ps, where I did grip jobs and APEX upgrades galore. Those upgrades simply are not needed now, and I'm loving it!
I hear what your saying gglass, ya either get a good one, or ya dont.
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Old April 17th, 2017, 08:08 PM   #21
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I'd have a tough time spending the $$ to get the 2.0..... If I was buying new I think that I'd pay another $100 for the 2.0 vs 1.0 for the trigger and grip texturing...
I just dont see the extra $100 in this new M2.0
The 1.0 triggers can be worked over nicely without spending a dime.
The 2.0 grip panels, can be bought and slipped onto the 1.0
Or you can do your own stippling on the 1.0 grip panels... if you mess up, they`re easily replaced w/new ones.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 04:06 PM   #22
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Ok I think I'll get the Apex barrel .
I see they have several trigger configurations .
? What do you recommend for HD
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Old April 20th, 2017, 05:21 PM   #23
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I bought a 2.0...... it does have some nice touches but they are nothing you cannot do to the pistol you have.
^ This statement is nonsense.

In another thread, M&P 2.0 Differences I See, I have catalogued at least 40 engineering differences between the
M1.0 and M2.0 versions of the full size M&P; virtually every one is not something one could "do to the pistol you have".

Confuscious say: "The eye doesn't see what the mind doesn't know".

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Old April 20th, 2017, 08:42 PM   #24
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I think there are good points with both guns. Even the 1.0 is more accurate than most people can shoot them. So, if your not a good shot to start with, the M2.0 is likely not going to make you any better of a shooter. Therefore, keep your 1.0 if thats the case.
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In the end, they're both sub $500 polymer striker fired guns. Neither is a safe queen. Do what your gut tells you. I'd keep the first gen and throw an Apex trigger in it. But thats me. Glock, S&W, Springfield. In that range, its Chevy, Ford, Dodge if you really think about it. I've shot really good one day with all of my guns and terrible the next. It all comes down to preference. When you get all into this stuff, you over analyze every minute detail and place emphasis on some things that are inconsequential. Shoot, I just bought $50 safety for a $500 M&P Sport. Buy why, cause I was all jacked up into it at the time, and it satisfied my urge to mess with it.

Get what your gut tells you that you want. If a new 2.0 is that, then go get one. If altering a current gun is more appealing, do that. Fun part of forums is discussing it all anyway. I had my M&P up for sale last year. Now I'm all looking at sending it to DP customs to blow a bunch of money on making it look cooler. Its all about satisfying that urge regardless of what others think.
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I purchased a 2.0 because I want the thumb safety on a 5 inch slide with out having to buy 2 pistols. I also have the original version pistols I have swapped slides on to get that set up.

One of the AA battery powered irons makes stippling pretty easy. I use the smoother back strap off the original version on both and have stippled the front strap on the original versions.

Both could use trigger work and the auto forward is fixable on the original. I shoot 40s so the barrel twist/accuracy debate in a non issue. In the hand shooting the difference between them is nothing.

Yes there are internal mods but shooting them the difference between a red striker channel liner and a white one is not much to worry about.
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Not a fan of some of the changes in the 2.0. The biggie is the slide catch. They fixed a non-existent problem and IMO took a "feature" out of the gun. When slamming a mag home the slide will drop on the 1.0. I like that. It saves precious time when you are likely to need it the most. They took that away with the 2.0. The rest of the changes just don't justify the extra $$$ to me. 1.0 for me...
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Not a fan of some of the changes in the 2.0. The biggie is the slide catch. They fixed a non-existent problem and IMO took a "feature" out of the gun. When slamming a mag home the slide will drop on the 1.0. I like that. It saves precious time when you are likely to need it the most. They took that away with the 2.0. The rest of the changes just don't justify the extra $$$ to me. 1.0 for me...
Exactly!

That right there is why I'll never own a 2.0.
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Old April 22nd, 2017, 07:37 PM   #29
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Up grade to the 2.0 or upgrade my old full size 9 m&p

New apex barrel and where to send it to for semi fit
And may as well do a apex trigger also .

Or sell for for $???
And put money toward a new 2.0
Personally, I would keep my old M&P, and just save my money to add the 2.0 version to the collection....just how I roll. I hate getting rid of a gun I already have.
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I say upgrade, then apex barrel. Best of both worlds.
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