Apex poly FSS trigger for CCW?

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Old July 1st, 2013, 04:53 PM   #1
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Apex poly FSS trigger for CCW?

Hey it's Jim here. I'm new to the forum since I just got a new 9c. I plan to carry it concealed for self defense. Like many on here have said, the take up is gritty and feels pretty hard right before release, even though it does have the new 2013 sear and the reset feels decent. As a 1911 shooter, I'm tempted to try upgrading to the new poly FSS trigger. Will this trigger be OK for concealed carry and self defense or should it just be used for competition?
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Hey it's Jim here. I'm new to the forum since I just got a new 9c. I plan to carry it concealed for self defense. Like many on here have said, the take up is gritty and feels pretty hard right before release, even though it does have the new 2013 sear and the reset feels decent. As a 1911 shooter, I'm tempted to try upgrading to the new poly FSS trigger. Will this trigger be OK for concealed carry and self defense or should it just be used for competition?
The APEX USB will get rid of the grit. The poly AEK can be used with any of the APEX action kits, but for carry use I would suggest the DCAEK.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 05:23 PM   #3
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Shooting the gun will get rid of the grittyness. Shoot about 500 rounds through it before you decide anything. I hated mine for 300ish rounds, and after about 350 400 rounds, the grittyness was pretty much gone. I then took a stone to the trigger bar surface that pushed up on the striker release, and no more grittyness at all now.
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I think having a forward set sear on a carry gun is not a good idea. I also have an M&P9c with a Burwell trigger job that breaks at 4 pounds, but I left the pre-travel alone. You need to have some pre-travel on a carry gun for safety reasons.
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Welcome to the forum from Texas Jim!
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Old July 1st, 2013, 06:27 PM   #6
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I would get the Duty Cary Action Enhancement Kit (DCAEK) with the Poly AEK trigger if you wanted to change the trigger vs the Forward Set Sear (FSS) kit on a carry gun. I have the DCAEK with Poly AEK myself.
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Thanks for the welcome and suggestions. I also was concerned about losing the pre-travel for concealed carry. I didn't know that the poly trigger could be used without the FSS. That's a great idea to use the poly trigger with just the DCAEK. Im glad to hear that works. Thanks.
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Also have the poly trigger and DCAEK and it is very nice!
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The APEX USB will get rid of the grit. The poly AEK can be used with any of the APEX action kits, but for carry use I would suggest the DCAEK.
Agreed I have the DCAEK on my carry gun.
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I have the DCAEK and the poly trigger. Keep in mind the standard poly trigger (N stamp) reduces pre travel 20%. A FSS really isn't a great idea for carry.
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I have the FSS on 2 of my carry guns, 5" PRO model (full 4.5 lb. FSS trigger) and a Sheild (5 lb., standard hinged trigger) and I can't imagine having it any other way. This is, by far, the best trigger kit for the M&P line of pistols, they've been installed in many LEO weapons. I don't get where folks come off telling other folks that an excellent trigger is a bad idea for a carry weapon. There is still some pretravel, much like a 1911, just not all the waisted takeup which the M&P factory trigger offers (and no, I don't need a lecture on the 1911's grip safety).

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I don't get where folks come off telling other folks that an excellent trigger is a bad idea for a carry weapon.
Most folks seem to feel as I do. The FSS was designed and marketed for comp shooters. The DCAEK is marketed for duty use. With the trigger being my only safety I want that extra uptake. The DCAEK with Poly AEK still has drastically less of it on my gun after install. He wanted a new trigger with less grit. That's what he'll get.

You're comfortable with yours and that's great. But why the hostile tone when people are merely answering his question with there personal opinions/experience? Your experience and comfort level is different. If you personally didn't go that route because of conserns you had why would you recommend it to others? He's still getting a great trigger designed with duty purposes in mind.
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Most folks seem to feel as I do. The FSS was designed and marketed for comp shooters. The DCAEK is marketed for duty use. With the trigger being my only safety I want that extra uptake. The DCAEK with Poly AEK still has drastically less of it on my gun after install. He wanted a new trigger with less grit. That's what he'll get.

You're comfortable with yours and that's great. But why the hostile tone when people are merely answering his question with there personal opinions/experience? Your experience and comfort level is different. If you personally didn't go that route because of conserns you had why would you recommend it to others? He's still getting a great trigger designed with duty purposes in mind.
Well said.
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Welcome to the Forum. I have 9 full size M&P's. All of them wear the FSS trigger kit. I carry my full size 40 Pro in the winter. Ia also have Apex kits on my 3 Shields and carry my 40 Shield in the summer. If you are a 1911 shooter, I highly recommend it.
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Most folks seem to feel as I do. The FSS was designed and marketed for comp shooters. The DCAEK is marketed for duty use. With the trigger being my only safety I want that extra uptake. The DCAEK with Poly AEK still has drastically less of it on my gun after install. He wanted a new trigger with less grit. That's what he'll get.

You're comfortable with yours and that's great. But why the hostile tone when people are merely answering his question with there personal opinions/experience? Your experience and comfort level is different. If you personally didn't go that route because of conserns you had why would you recommend it to others? He's still getting a great trigger designed with duty purposes in mind.
I'm going to have to agree with KRWEISS on this one. It is a very good trigger for people that can use it. What makes the FSS trigger any different than a nice carry 1911 trigger with similar trigger pull? Sure it says on their website "for competition" but that's for legality reasons.

Also what hostile tone did you read there? I see none.
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