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Old December 28th, 2016, 11:30 AM   #31
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And I tried contacting Burwell. He's gone, just like this forum said he was.
Burwell is still around and still doing triggers for M&Ps. He just went back through mine and touched it up, earlier this year. I also recently spoke with him about doing my wifes M&P, too.

His trigger job is by far the best out there. Apex trigger parts are not bad, but they are hit or miss (no pun intended). Some feel great and some not so much. That being said every single person that has ever tried my Burwell trigger vs their Apex wishes they had gone with his trigger.

All that said, anything is better than the factory M&P triggers. None of the factory stuff feels worth a crap.
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Old December 29th, 2016, 07:29 AM   #32
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Burwell is still around and still doing triggers for M&Ps. He just went back through mine and touched it up, earlier this year. I also recently spoke with him about doing my wifes M&P, too.

His trigger job is by far the best out there. Apex trigger parts are not bad, but they are hit or miss (no pun intended). Some feel great and some not so much. That being said every single person that has ever tried my Burwell trigger vs their Apex wishes they had gone with his trigger.

All that said, anything is better than the factory M&P triggers. None of the factory stuff feels worth a crap.
Dont bash on APEX, bash on the people installing APEX parts that might not know what they`re doing.
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Old January 11th, 2017, 04:43 PM   #33
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The best video tutorial on the M&P Trigger Job is at the following link. He covers ALL of the issues from start to finish. Kind of a lengthy video, but it's thorough.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 10:59 PM   #34
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I did most of the Burwell trigger job on my .40 and .45 because Apex was not around when I got my pistols. I didn't do much to the sear other than polish the contact surfaces. The striker block (SB) took the most work. The early SB had a short abrupt radius to them that was the main cause of the crappy hitch in the trigger pull. Basically I made my SB shape like the Apex ones. After polishing all the contact points the trigger was much smoother. By reducing the friction via polishing the contact points I'd say the pull weight is reduced by maybe a half pound. The spring isn't the only thing that determines the pull weight.
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Old March 6th, 2017, 06:02 PM   #35
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Changing the angle of the camming surface of the sear as Burwell does will have an effect on trigger pull weight. Think of driving up to a cement block with your 4x4 and then driving over it as compared to driving over it while using a 2X10 as a ramp. Driving up to and over the block takes a lot more immediate effort due to the lack of mechanical advantage. Just filing off some of the compound angle of the standard sear alone will reduce trigger pull weight with no other changes made.
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My first ever experience gunsmithing was a complete Burwell job with the apex competition spring kit on a standard M&P9. That trigger was amazing.
Then I did it all over with a M&P 9 PC and it was that much better.
Go for it, the instructions are clear. Take it easy though
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I did most of the Burwell trigger job on my .40 and .45 because Apex was not around when I got my pistols. I didn't do much to the sear other than polish the contact surfaces. The striker block (SB) took the most work. The early SB had a short abrupt radius to them that was the main cause of the crappy hitch in the trigger pull. Basically I made my SB shape like the Apex ones. After polishing all the contact points the trigger was much smoother. By reducing the friction via polishing the contact points I'd say the pull weight is reduced by maybe a half pound. The spring isn't the only thing that determines the pull weight.
But as he said, just shaping and polishing everything makes for such a clean trigger that the weight isn't so much of an issue afterwards
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My first ever experience gunsmithing was a complete Burwell job with the apex competition spring kit on a standard M&P9. That trigger was amazing.
Then I did it all over with a M&P 9 PC and it was that much better.
Go for it, the instructions are clear. Take it easy though
Just finished the same on my compact 357.
Before, trigger measured 6 lbs, 9 oz.
Added a Pro 9 sear.
After measured 3 lbs, 4 oz.
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Old March 17th, 2017, 10:22 AM   #39
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Burwell trigger job vs Apex

I used the Apex Tactical Duty/Carry Action Enhancement kit (long way of saying sear and springs) on my Shield. I did the Burwell trigger mods on my Fs 4.25.

In my opinion the Apex deal turned out better than my version of the Burwell deal but I have not convinced myself that the improvement is enough to order the Apex kit for my FS. YMMV
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