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Old March 10th, 2008, 01:02 AM   #1
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The CTAC modification

Someone suggested that I repost this mod here. It's been living on another forum for a while now, and I've been wanting to redo it anyway, so here we go.



Behold, the CTAC by Comp-Tac:





This is one of the best concealment holsters on the market. People of all sizes and shapes use this holster and successfully conceal even fullsize semi-autos and carry them rather comfortably.



The CTAC is an incredibly versatile holster. There are a lot of other great holsters out there, but none that provide this many carry options. This holster design allows you to adjust it to your unique needs and body type so you can find a carry position that works well for you. The clips can be easily adjusted to vary the height and cant of the holster.



With the newly redesigned clips, there are a total of 25 different carry options possible in its stock configuration. Even if these 25 different carry options don't work for you, the CTAC can be easily modified to provide 25 more options, for a grand total of 50 possible carry options with this holster!



To complete this modification, the clips do not need to be removed from the leather tabs, but in the pic below I've removed the clips just to clearly show the way the leather tabs come mounted on the holster direct from Comp-Tac.





Remove the leather tabs from the holster. Notice that the screws differ in length. In case you forget which is which, the longer screws fit on the rear of the holster and adjust the retention. The shorter screws attach the leather tab to the front of the holster.





Now switch the front tab to the back and the back tab to the front. The holes punched into the leather might not line up perfectly in this new configuration but its not difficult to make it work. Do not turn the tabs around. The smooth side of the leather should be facing out. After switching the tabs, the front tab will now be angled up and the rear tab will protrude straight back as shown below:





You have now completed the modification. All you have to do now is adjust the clips to find the height/cant configuration that works best for you. You'll discover that the holster now sits lower on the waist, and most people find the mod provides even more comfort and concealment. YMMV.





If you find the CTAC a little uncomfortable, do your best to accurately identify the points that are causing discomfort.



If it is the holster body itself digging into your hip, simply change the position of the holster by adjusting the clips or by switching out the leather tabs as shown above. You might be surprised how such a small adjustment can make a big difference.







The back of the T-nuts may cause discomfort and even the leather tabs can as well. When brand new, the leather is quite stiff and the edges of the leather can be a little hard and can literally rub you the wrong way. This is easily rectified by applying Moleskin to the back of the T-nuts and around the edges of the leather tabs.



If you don't like the feel of the kydex against your skin, you can also apply Moleskin to the back of the body shield. It works like a charm.



Here's what it looks like with the full Moleskin treatment:



(Moleskin is very inexpensive and can be found in the footcare section of your local drug store.)



To be honest, when I purchased my first CTAC, I was a little disappointed as I found it a little uncomfortable. Wearing it at the 3:00 position, I found the front leather tab was simply in the way. The original position of the front tab made it dig into the front of my hip especially when sitting. After the switch, with the front tab now angled upwards, it is much more forgiving and does not get in the way or dig into me when I sit.



I like where this modification places the holster on my hip. The change in position is subtle but it makes a surprisingly big difference. The pistol is now even a little easier to draw due to its slightly lower ride IWB.



The Moleskin treatment just puts the finishing touches on it all.



Some might wonder about how great this holster is if I have to do all this to it. I don't have a problem adding a few personal touches, and as far as I'm concerned, the end result is the perfect concealment holster for me and I will not carry in anything else. I have several CTACs and recommend them wholeheartedly.



COMP-TAC WEBSITE

CTAC LINK



For the record, I am not the one who came up with this idea. This modification was originally detailed at http://pershot.com/blog/?postid=88 but that link has been dead for years. The first place I posted it was at http://californiaccw.org/posts/list/793.page#9736 but it will now officially live here at www.mp-pistol.com.
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Old March 10th, 2008, 01:26 AM   #2
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Great post, thanks for the info!
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Thanks Chooch.

Stickied.
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Sweet!
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Thanks, Cooch.....I was wanting to see how the moleskin looked. Decision made. lol
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As I was doing this one up last night I was thinking that a good alternative to Moleskin would be AGrip. The Moleskin works fine as is, but I suspect the Agrip would wear better and last longer on the back of the body shield.



For those who are unfamiliar with AGrip, it is soft and suede-like, and is sold in pre-cut patterns to fit pistol grips, but it is also available in small sheets similar to Moleskin.
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At first I thought you were recommending skateboard tape. Ouchie!

But AGrip is non-abrasive. Ahhhh... Looks like good stuff.
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I should have provided a link.



AGRIP WEBSITE

AGRIP THREAD
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thanks for the idea.

how long does the moleskinlast before you replace it? Would the A-Grip last longer or just for comfort?
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Originally Posted by choochboost' post='114670' date='Mar 10 2008, 02:02 AM
Someone suggested that I repost this mod here. It's been living on another forum for a while now, and I've been wanting to redo it anyway, so here we go.



Behold, the CTAC by Comp-Tac:





This is one of the best concealment holsters on the market. People of all sizes and shapes use this holster and successfully conceal even fullsize semi-autos and carry them rather comfortably.



The CTAC is an incredibly versatile holster. There are a lot of other great holsters out there, but none that provide this many carry options. This holster design allows you to adjust it to your unique needs and body type so you can find a carry position that works well for you. The clips can be easily adjusted to vary the height and cant of the holster.



With the newly redesigned clips, there are a total of 25 different carry options possible in its stock configuration. Even if these 25 different carry options don't work for you, the CTAC can be easily modified to provide 25 more options, for a grand total of 50 possible carry options with this holster!



To complete this modification, the clips do not need to be removed from the leather tabs, but in the pic below I've removed the clips just to clearly show the way the leather tabs come mounted on the holster direct from Comp-Tac.





Remove the leather tabs from the holster. Notice that the screws differ in length. In case you forget which is which, the longer screws fit on the rear of the holster and adjust the retention. The shorter screws attach the leather tab to the front of the holster.





Now switch the front tab to the back and the back tab to the front. The holes punched into the leather might not line up perfectly in this new configuration but its not difficult to make it work. Do not turn the tabs around. The smooth side of the leather should be facing out. After switching the tabs, the front tab will now be angled up and the rear tab will protrude straight back as shown below:





You have now completed the modification. All you have to do now is adjust the clips to find the height/cant configuration that works best for you. You'll discover that the holster now sits lower on the waist, and most people find the mod provides even more comfort and concealment. YMMV.





If you find the CTAC a little uncomfortable, do your best to accurately identify the points that are causing discomfort.



If it is the holster body itself digging into your hip, simply change the position of the holster by adjusting the clips or by switching out the leather tabs as shown above. You might be surprised how such a small adjustment can make a big difference.







The back of the T-nuts may cause discomfort and even the leather tabs can as well. When brand new, the leather is quite stiff and the edges of the leather can be a little hard and can literally rub you the wrong way. This is easily rectified by applying Moleskin to the back of the T-nuts and around the edges of the leather tabs.



If you don't like the feel of the kydex against your skin, you can also apply Moleskin to the back of the body shield. It works like a charm.



Here's what it looks like with the full Moleskin treatment:



(Moleskin is very inexpensive and can be found in the footcare section of your local drug store.)



To be honest, when I purchased my first CTAC, I was a little disappointed as I found it a little uncomfortable. Wearing it at the 3:00 position, I found the front leather tab was simply in the way. The original position of the front tab made it dig into the front of my hip especially when sitting. After the switch, with the front tab now angled upwards, it is much more forgiving and does not get in the way or dig into me when I sit.



I like where this modification places the holster on my hip. The change in position is subtle but it makes a surprisingly big difference. The pistol is now even a little easier to draw due to its slightly lower ride IWB.



The Moleskin treatment just puts the finishing touches on it all.



Some might wonder about how great this holster is if I have to do all this to it. I don't have a problem adding a few personal touches, and as far as I'm concerned, the end result is the perfect concealment holster for me and I will not carry in anything else. I have several CTACs and recommend them wholeheartedly.



COMP-TAC WEBSITE

CTAC LINK



For the record, I am not the one who came up with this idea. This modification was originally detailed at http://pershot.com/blog/?postid=88 but that link has been dead for years. The first place I posted it was at http://californiaccw.org/posts/list/793.page#9736 but it will now officially live here at www.mp-pistol.com.


Chooch, thanks! I have my CTAC now and I am beginning to get it ready. I seem to remember a post where you said that you went to the next waist size on your jeans. Is that the best way to go? Mine are on the tight side right now. I can't try with my M&P's because I just sent them to Dan for trigger and grip texture work.
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Chooch, thanks! I have my CTAC now and I am beginning to get it ready. I seem to remember a post where you said that you went to the next waist size on your jeans. Is that the best way to go? Mine are on the tight side right now. I can't try with my M&P's because I just sent them to Dan for trigger and grip texture work.
I'm only guessing. It depends on how you normally wear your pants. I don't go out of my way to specifically buy pants one size larger. All I know is what size I buy, and when I go to buy new pants, I'm packing, so I can always tell if they fit or not.
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As I was doing this one up last night I was thinking that a good alternative to Moleskin would be AGrip. The Moleskin works fine as is, but I suspect the Agrip would wear better and last longer on the back of the body shield.



For those who are unfamiliar with AGrip, it is soft and suede-like, and is sold in pre-cut patterns to fit pistol grips, but it is also available in small sheets similar to Moleskin.


Great idea! I bought a 5" x 8" sheet of AGrip ($ 21.50) and just installed it on the sweat guard and fasteners of one of my CTAC's. The adhesive is much better than supplied on moleskin, and the material is soft yet quite durable. There is enough material to do about 3 holsters per sheet.



Thanks Chooch.
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I like my CTAC. But, the holster and gun conceal better then the long belt clips. I have found that if you cinch up your belt, so its tight, the gun and holster hug your body nicely. But, the tighter your belt the tighter to your body the top of the clip is too. This pushes out the bottom of the clip, so that it is angled out away from your body. So the clip prints through your pants.



As a result I have taken to adjusting the clips for me, then trimming off the excess clip so it doesn't print through.
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Great post. I wish I had tried these options before I sent mine back. The top of the holster was digging into my side.
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Great idea! I bought a 5" x 8" sheet of AGrip ($ 21.50) and just installed it on the sweat guard and fasteners of one of my CTAC's. The adhesive is much better than supplied on moleskin, and the material is soft yet quite durable. There is enough material to do about 3 holsters per sheet.



Thanks Chooch.
My apologies if this question has been asked a million times before, but how much better is the adhesive on the AGrip than on the moleskin? Would moleskin be a viable temporary substitute for AGrip if I wanted to apply it to a pistol for a match? I presume that whoever invented AGrip first used moleskin then improved the adhesive. I don't mind removing and reaplying grip enhancers. My skateboard tape only seems to last a few weeks at most and it's scratchy during the summer months when I conceal with a tee shirt.



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