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This is a discussion on Shooting Low Left within the MP Pistol Tech Help forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; Had to demonstrate that to myself. My new M&P9 was going low-left. Took my old M&P (~1930 .38 police special), which I usually only fire ...


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Old November 5th, 2006, 05:42 PM   #16
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Had to demonstrate that to myself. My new M&P9 was going low-left. Took my old M&P (~1930 .38 police special), which I usually only fire SA, and did a dance in the 9-10 ring. As soon as I switched to DA, the rounds went to 7-8 o'clock and low. A little concentration on the trigger of the M&P9 eliminated most of the low. I'm still working on the left. The front sight is off-center, right about a MM. It is obviously not centered on the barrel. Is this something that is common? How long should I keep correcting the shooter before I start trying to adjust the front or rear sight?
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Old November 5th, 2006, 06:54 PM   #17
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I have read quite a few posts on this Forum about the front sight not being centered, mine being one of them. My groups were all well left of center and then I noticed my front sight was way right of centerline. I was able to center the front sight and that corrected my shooting left. It was only off center about 1/8 inch. Do a search on "Front Sights" and you should be able to bring up all the past posts.
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Old November 6th, 2006, 07:30 AM   #18
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I was shooting low right (I'm a lefty) when I first got my M&P. It was definately the trigger control or lack therof on my part. I had been shooting exclusively 1911s - nice short single action trigger. Played with the backstraps and did a DIY trigger job plus alot of practice and thing are much better now.
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Old November 8th, 2006, 08:50 PM   #19
 
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The funny thing is that I shoot Low & Left with most guns......



Except with the M&P9!!



Go figure





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Old November 8th, 2006, 08:54 PM   #20
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Yamil,

Maybe with a trigger job I can get back to your normal low and left
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Old November 8th, 2006, 08:57 PM   #21
 
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Yamil,

Maybe with a trigger job I can get back to your normal low and left










NOOOOO!!!!



I bet the groups will get tighter, and I'll be plagued with One Holers!!! 8) 8)
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Old November 13th, 2006, 09:34 AM   #22
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As kinda a follow up, went to the range this weekend with my ParaOrdnance P13 and handloads, proceeded to hit several dead center, and the rest nicely grouped (same distance as M&P). Then shot the M&P--consistently to the left, some fliers still going towards 7 o'clock.



It could be that after about 900 rounds, I still haven't mastered the trigger, but I'm becoming more convinced that my sights are at least off laterally... so I'll try adjusting to see what happens...
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Old November 13th, 2006, 12:14 PM   #23
 
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FWIW, the MP40 I just got back from S&W with the replaced frame, I did not notice the pronounced low and left point of impact any more. Could just be that I am simply shooting better now, but I doubt it.
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Old November 19th, 2006, 06:53 PM   #24
 
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This could be something or nothing...but when I was purchasing my M&P40 yesterday at a gun show I noticed that the white dot on the front sight was not centered but was actually to the right a little bit. I looked at four MP's before I found one that was true.
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Old November 19th, 2006, 07:37 PM   #25
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Don't use the dot...



Line up the top of the front sight with the top of the rear and center it.
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Old November 23rd, 2006, 03:00 PM   #26
 
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low left

I was at the range yesterday,and shot from 10 back to 25 yds.At every yardage the group was low & left,the further back the lower and more left.This was two handed and slow fire.Out of fustration, I tried one handed( ala Bulleye), and the groups were straight on for windage and just a bit high.This was with WWB ammo,and I was using the small grip insert.So after reading that this is happening to others I think that it must be something in the grip that I need to work on.I also noticed while shooting with one hand that the trigger is heavy and has a rough spot on it just before it breaks.So it needs a trip to Mr.Burwell.And maybe a differant front sight,these old eyes have trouble with that front dot. Binski
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Old November 28th, 2006, 07:37 PM   #27
 
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Just a quick note, I bought my M&P 40 back in may and was shooting low left also at about 7-10yds. I called S&W and they told me to send it in and they would check it, so they sent me the Fedex return paper work, i still have the paper work. Before i was going to send it back, i took it out and shot it again using the high grip method and focusing on trigger control, needless to say i was right on the money and completely took out the center of the target like the old carnival BB gun game. I have owned and shot a lot of hanguns and this one defiantely shoots different, but it is the best i have owned and have shot. Just waiting for night sights to come out for it.

My only other issue with it was the slide locking open after a couple of rounds, but changing my grip solved that problem too.
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Old November 28th, 2006, 08:19 PM   #28
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I think most of the "low-left" shooting is the shooter and not the pistol. I started that way and with some meditation, thought and practice it seems to shoot where I think I'm aiming. My M&P9 has uncovered some flaws in my technique and forced me to pay attention to grip and trigger control. It's a little frustrating at times. At least for me, the pistol does not forgive poor technique. I like the way it feels and shoots.
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Bump for newer members to the forum as this seems to be a VERY common issue.
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Old December 26th, 2006, 07:04 PM   #30
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I wonder how much "low-left" has to do with new shooters and how much has to do with the pistol? Mine shot low-left (~2" left and up to 6" low at 15 yards) at first. I worked on technique and thought I had the low fixed. Then moved the rear sight and everything went right. Moved the sight left a bit and must have recentered it because it went back left. I low was solved by putting the dot of the front sight on the target and the bottom of the front dot on the top of the rear dots. We shoot low-left at 7, 10 and 15 yards. That's on a day I can shoot center of target with 3 semiautomatic .22's, one .22 revolver and a .38 special. I've tried different weight ammo to no avail. I've also done the "low" with this pistol on days that I've picked up one I've never shot before and had poi about poa. I've been more accurate with a Hi-point I've never fired, as far as putting the bottom of the bull on the top of the sights) than I have with the M&P.



The pistol will probably go back to S&W after the holidays. In the meantime, I'm looking for an adjustable rear sight. I'd hate to take a clampon vise and file to the range, but I'm sorely tempted.



I like everything about the pistol but the absolute frustration of trying to get one, or both, of us centered on the target.
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