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Old August 22nd, 2015, 02:16 PM   #1
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Accuracy - What are you satisfied with?

I am relatively new at pistol shooting, 68 years old, my hands are not as strong as they once were, and I'm a lot shakier than I used to be. I know I have trigger control problems and I am working on that. I mostly shoot at 7 yards and consistently hit within an 8" target but I am everywhere on the target except generally I have very few hits between 3 o'clock and 6 o'clock. I'm shooting a M&P 9 and a M&P Shield 9.

What do you expect your accuracy to be consistently and how long did it take you to reach that point? I am sure some of you have been shooting longer than I have left in my shooting career and some of you are novices like me so a second question is how long have you been shooting?
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Old August 22nd, 2015, 08:39 PM   #2
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I am relatively new at pistol shooting, 68 years old, my hands are not as strong as they once were, and I'm a lot shakier than I used to be. I know I have trigger control problems and I am working on that. I mostly shoot at 7 yards and consistently hit within an 8" target but I am everywhere on the target except generally I have very few hits between 3 o'clock and 6 o'clock. I'm shooting a M&P 9 and a M&P Shield 9.

What do you expect your accuracy to be consistently and how long did it take you to reach that point? I am sure some of you have been shooting longer than I have left in my shooting career and some of you are novices like me so a second question is how long have you been shooting?
Are you better with the M&P than you are with the shield?

Are you using the pad of you fingertip to pull the trigger?

can you post pictures of what the target looks like after you take about 10 to 15 shots at it?
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Old August 23rd, 2015, 05:02 AM   #3
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I am relatively new to handguns, too. I've got about 500 rounds through my 40 compact and I've finally gotten to the point where I'm satisfied. I'm quite accurate from 3, 7 10 yards and at 25 yards I can group within 8-10 inches. Grip is important. I also practiced with loading snap caps in with live rounds, that helps with anticipating the recoil.

I started at 7 and 10 yards and was disappointed, so I moved to 3 yards and worked on accuracy. That helped too.

Dry fire in a lot, that helped me with acquiring a quick sight picture and holding it as I squeezed the trigger.

Now I'm working on drawing from the holster and firing 2 quick rounds. That still needs work.
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Old August 23rd, 2015, 09:34 AM   #4
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This is a 25 yard group of 30 shots from my 9mm M&P, the gun is capable of much better performance but this is about the best I can do these days, I probably could cut that in half 20 years ago, eyes and hands aren't what they used to be. The bullet is the Rainier 115 gr plated HP.
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Old August 23rd, 2015, 10:47 AM   #5
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On my best day I enjoy 2 alpha, on an average day Ill take 1 alpha 1 charlie, esp. if I were shooting on the move.

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Old August 23rd, 2015, 03:39 PM   #6
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g10ck, I shoot the Shield better than I do the FS 9. The trigger is more consistent on the Shield and I seem to handle it better. However, this thread was not written to seek help on improving my accuracy, though any and all help is appreciated. I really was just curious about what most people are happy with when shooting targets, practicing. I have a long way to go before I can match what G56 posted but I will keep trying.

Right now I think I will be happy when I can consistently shoot a 4" group at 7 yards.
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ElevenBravo can you decipher your post for me?
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Old August 23rd, 2015, 05:27 PM   #8
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ElevenBravo can you decipher your post for me?
I can.

He/She is referring to USPSA style scoring. Thus one round falls in the smaller A zone and the second falls in the larger C zone:

USPSA "Style" Match: Wednesdays, 7:30pm at Big Shots, Lincoln, NE
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Pro barrell

Does anyone have 5" 9mm new factory barrels with the newer twist rate for the PRO series?
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Old August 23rd, 2015, 07:14 PM   #10
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Yes, see target in the post above.
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Old August 24th, 2015, 02:26 PM   #11
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Sorry, kinda using "slang", look at a USPSA target, Alpha, Charlie, Delta scoring areas, and you can get the idea... Were not knocking the head off a nickle, center mass is good to go!



Paper targets (almost always) get two shots, thus 2A or Two Alpha means the two shots landed in the alpha scoring area, hopefully it was the Alpha area you were aiming at! HA HA!

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JoeAN, I am also a old fart 62.. I just got back into shooting a few months ago. If I can hit the broad side of a barn I am good lol I am starting to range out a bit,, I started 10ft,3yards and 25 ft.. 10ft and 3 yards , Start close and the range out, IMO if you can keep your groups in a dinner plate size at 25 ft with a small gun I would call it good,, I would like to shoot dinner plates size with my 9mm Shield and Ruger SR9E at 25 yards,, Maybe 1 day I will Welcome to the group
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This is a 25 yard group of 30 shots from my 9mm M&P, the gun is capable of much better performance but this is about the best I can do these days, I probably could cut that in half 20 years ago, eyes and hands aren't what they used to be. The bullet is the Rainier 115 gr plated HP.
IMHO this is pretty darn good shooting.
Go ahead and make me feel bad and tell me it was one-handed.
Or better yet, rapid fire too!
I hope to shoot that well someday.
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Old August 24th, 2015, 07:23 PM   #14
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It was actually weak hand unsupported....and if you buy that....

In the real world, it was two hands, taking my time. That was two mags, I've been having ejection problems so shooting that group included several smokestack jams, finally got it figured out that I need a lighter recoil spring to work with my standard handload, that's in the process of being corrected, I have the Wolff recoil spring guide and one reduced power recoil spring in hand, with some additional spring rates coming later this week.
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I practice mostly shooting quickly, with adequate accuracy. That said, I want to be able to shoot an upper A/B (~4"-5" square) without worrying about whether the pistol can cut it or not. I'm not a bullseye shooter (that demands holes-in-holes), but I expect a ~4" group at 10 yards, and I expect that most of that error will be me.

I hear a lot of online chatter about 2.5" at 25 yards, but of the hundreds of people I shoot with, I don't know any of those...

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