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Old July 26th, 2008, 09:22 PM   #1
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There really needs to be a sticky in the FAQ section called "Before you say your M&P isn't accurate" ...


  1. Make sure you are pulling the trigger properly. Clear your gun, check that it's empty, check again, and then perform the Wall Drill.
  2. Once you are getting a trigger break without the front sight moving, try the Ball & Dummy Drill to see if you are anticipating your shots.
  3. Once you are pulling the trigger without anticipating, work on marksmanship fundamentals by slowly increasing the level of difficulty, such as with the 3x5 Card Drill.



It's all but mechanically impossible for the M&P to be shooting 4" groups at 7yd. Even if the bullet wasn't stabilized it would probably print tighter than that. People often explain that "I shoot other guns better" but the M&P isn't another gun, it's an M&P. The trigger is different than a Glock, or a 1911, or a Ruger MkIII, etc.



I've had more than a few students with M&P pistols and so far every one has been capable of shooting a one-hole group at 7yd if I did my part.
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Old August 10th, 2008, 02:09 PM   #2
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More good advice in this thread:

http://mp-pistol.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=888
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If you are a diligent dry-fire practicer, and maintain sight alignment as you dry fire, you should eliminate anticipation and flinching. If you practice without flinching, you will learn not flinch.
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Old August 22nd, 2008, 06:37 AM   #4
 
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I have Sigs, H&Ks, Glocks, Berettas. I shoot most accurately with a Sig 229 DAK, well, that is until I shot my M&P through the same courses of fire. I was somewhat surprised at it's accuracy. I can honestly say that I shoot it as acccurately, probably slightly more accurately than any gun I have.
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Old August 22nd, 2008, 10:11 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Tangle' post='160825' date='Aug 22 2008, 06:37 AM
I have Sigs, H&Ks, Glocks, Berettas. I shoot most accurately with a Sig 229 DAK, well, that is until I shot my M&P through the same courses of fire. I was somewhat surprised at it's accuracy. I can honestly say that I shoot it as acccurately, probably slightly more accurately than any gun I have.
I've had the same experience.
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Old September 22nd, 2008, 06:08 AM   #6
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...........M&P not accurate?

From 20yds ...

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Old September 22nd, 2008, 06:34 AM   #7
 
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I am having trouble shooting high or something. I have to keep the muzzle slightly low almost till the front sight is barely visible from the back. Then things seem to come together. My grip may be wrong too. I am using a low left overlap right grip kinda thing. On my 1911 I would have my right hand with my thumb resting on thumb safety. Then left hand slightlly forward of right with thumb just below the slide.



Hard to explain...whats the proper way to grip this thing? I think I can get the sighting down as long as im gripping it right. I also found sometimes if I look past the sights and more at the target, sort of like point shooting, then my shots tend to go where I look. Was shooting yesterday and tried this, I was about 5-6 feet away and was drilling the same spot on the target. Basically was making the hole bigger in diameter just by looking at the hole while I pulled the trigger.
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Old September 22nd, 2008, 09:30 AM   #8
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I've noticed that my MP's get less accurate in the last hour or so at the range. I wonder what's causing this? In fact all my pistols begin to get less accurate just before I pack up to leave the range. Very strange!

Just kidding!

Thank's for the reminders Todd. I have perused your web site often and found it to be very helpful. I dry fire often (usually daily) and consider dry firing while practicing trigger control the most important factors for getting tighter patterns. I'm not a competition (mostly due to age) shooter but my groupings are usually tighter than many of the people I shoot with that are much younger than I am. Probably strictly due to my dry firing and trigger control practice.
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My MP's are more accurate than I am
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 08:43 PM   #10
 
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I keep having to remind myself there's only so many "fixes" / "upgrades" I can do to the pistol. There are more "fixes" / "upgrades" I can do to how I shoot the pistol.
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thanks this was very helpful
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Old November 28th, 2008, 03:03 PM   #12
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Being a newb I was thinking that my M&P was all over the place, mostly high and left though. I held off moving the sights and read this forum, Todd's site, as well as the brianenos.com forums and I have to say, it was all me! I was doing Todd's 3x5 drill today with 124g's and tearing the heck out of the center of the cards at all of the distances.

My M&P9 is VERY accurate! If yours isn't, it really is probably you.







Thanks for the great site Todd!
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This was before I started improving my accuraccy with reloading...



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Old March 13th, 2009, 06:56 AM   #14
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All three of my MP's are very accurate but my MP 9 Pro makes me look like a great shooter. 90% of my range time is spent with my Pro in my hand. Love all my MPs!!!
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I found this in another forum. I found my grouping to be low and to the left. [attachment=972:diagnostic_target.jpg]
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