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Old April 24th, 2010, 07:51 PM   #16
 
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I have an M&P 40 and have dry fired it 100's of time without using snap caps. I haven't had any problems at all.
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Old April 26th, 2010, 03:31 PM   #17
 
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There's been a report of a striker breaking during live fire here.
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Old April 26th, 2010, 04:00 PM   #18
 
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Originally Posted by Nsw550' post='253130' date='Apr 16 2010, 09:27 PM
I've dry fired my M&P without snap caps thousands of times and its been fine.


+1



No problems here, either. YMMV



from the S&W FAQ:



Can I dry fire my S&W handgun?

Q: Can I dry fire my Smith & Wesson?



A: Yes, except for the .22 caliber pistols which includes models 22A, 22S, 422, 2206, 2214, 2213 and 41.



.22 caliber revolvers such as models 17, 43, 63, 317 and 617 also should not be dry fired.



Q: Why can't I dry fire my .22 pistol or revolver?



A: Dry firing a S&W .22 pistol or revolver will cause damage to the firing pin.
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Old April 26th, 2010, 05:49 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by subsonix' post='254629' date='Apr 26 2010, 07:00 PM
+1



No problems here, either. YMMV



from the S&W FAQ:



Can I dry fire my S&W handgun?

Q: Can I dry fire my Smith & Wesson?



A: Yes, except for the .22 caliber pistols which includes models 22A, 22S, 422, 2206, 2214, 2213 and 41.



.22 caliber revolvers such as models 17, 43, 63, 317 and 617 also should not be dry fired.



Q: Why can't I dry fire my .22 pistol or revolver?



A: Dry firing a S&W .22 pistol or revolver will cause damage to the firing pin.


You can dry fire all you want,you bought it... and as far as I know,still a free country



I'm just saying I never or hardly ever dry fire any of my weapons. I've also never had a striker problem with any of my M&P's and I'm well over 15,000 rounds between three M&P FS 9's and above 4000 with my M&P FS 45. I lost track of how many rounds through my old Colt Commander, never broke a firing pin, but did replace them. Same for all my rifles and shotguns. Like I said, I'm old school, I was taught dry firing was never a good thing.



I'm also wondering if S&W's FAQ takes into consideration that when people ask about dry firing, they are talking about dry firing 100's, 1000's and more to help "smooth out triggers,etc" ????? Don't get me wrong, I'm not beyond an accasional "squeeze and CLICK", but I never walk around constantly dry firing to "smooth" things up.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 05:59 PM   #20
 
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I have dry fired hundreds of times w/o snaps and no problems here....
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Old May 14th, 2010, 01:50 AM   #21
 
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I have never understood the whole debate of dry firing with or without snap caps. How would the firing pin striking the snap caps plastic primer be safer or less wear than the firing pin hitting nothing at all?. The damn manufacturer S&W states that it is ok to do so with the exception being a .22 rimfire. So how is this a question of concern?
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Old May 14th, 2010, 06:53 AM   #22
 
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Have over a thousand rounds through my fs 45 and I've dry-fired probably a hundred times. Not one problem ever.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 08:53 PM   #23
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mine gets dry fired (without snap caps) around 500 times per week unless i end up at the range. * no issues thus far. * i have the latest striker revision and an extra in case of breakage.



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Originally Posted by MaddMax' post='253173' date='Apr 17 2010, 09:43 AM
If by chance you don't or can't find the small envelope with the test fire case. A real easy way is look on the end of the case it came in next to the serial number to the right is a (should be)four didget number. 7123 8123 or 9123. The first number 7-8-9, are the year manufactured. The 123 (or what ever numbers) are the day of that year.
if that's true, my serial number is newer than its test-fire casing by nearly a month and would have been made on a sunday. * plus, there are serials with numbers higher than 7365, 8365, and 9365 and lower than 6XXX.
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Old May 30th, 2010, 05:28 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by 9mm' post='259253' date='May 29 2010, 11:53 PM
mine gets dry fired (without snap caps) around 500 times per week unless i end up at the range. * no issues thus far. * i have the latest striker revision and an extra in case of breakage.





if that's true, my serial number is newer than its test-fire casing by nearly a month and would have been made on a sunday. * plus, there are serials with numbers higher than 7365, 8365, and 9365 and lower than 6XXX.


It's NOT the serial number. It's the SMALL four (4) digit number to the RIGHT of the SERIAL number on the case.



Being it's now 2010. ... It could be a five (5) digit number, if it was made in 2010.
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Old May 30th, 2010, 06:04 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by MaddMax' post='259296' date='May 30 2010, 09:28 AM
It's NOT the serial number. It's the SMALL four (4) digit number to the RIGHT of the SERIAL number on the case.
thanks for the clarification. * turns out, that number was directly below the serial number to the right of the bar code.
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Old May 30th, 2010, 09:28 AM   #26
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+10 on Jeff31b



The manual is very clear. Dry fire all you want w/o a snap cap! Using a snap cap won't hurt it either. Looks like you can't go wrong.
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Old May 30th, 2010, 09:38 AM   #27
 
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I just picked up my M&P40 yesterday and I dry fired the shit out of it. Yeah it's only one day but I'm going to keep going. If it breaks, I'll call S&W and get a replacement.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #28
 
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Originally Posted by mercohaulic' post='257118' date='May 13 2010, 09:59 PM
I have dry fired hundreds of times w/o snaps and no problems here....


After about 600 live rounds and 2000 to 3000 dry-fires, the striker on my M&P 9 broke. S&W went me a replacement free. Since then, I use snap caps on that pistol, on my M&P 9c, and on my M&P 45.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 06:09 AM   #29
 
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Originally Posted by BobRowe' post='263111' date='Jun 29 2010, 07:13 PM
After about 600 live rounds and 2000 to 3000 dry-fires, the striker on my M&P 9 broke. S&W went me a replacement free. Since then, I use snap caps on that pistol, on my M&P 9c, and on my M&P 45.


Was your broken striker black, or silver?



The new silver ones (which I presume S&W sent you as a replacement) should have a better fatigue life. The silver ones have larger radiuses and more meat in high stress areas, plus the newer striker assembly uses a 15% longer spring of the same gauge wire.
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 03:13 AM   #30
 
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Originally Posted by rdoneil' post='253199' date='Apr 17 2010, 09:53 AM
If there is even a chance that dry firing without snap caps may damage the striker and if it is known that dry firing with snap caps will absolutely do no damage to the striker, then the logical answer is to dry fire only when using snap caps.
Yeah..I don't get it. Especially with the most common cartridge size out there... Freaking 9mm snap-caps grow on trees.

Too hard to load 'em?
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