This is a discussion on Safe to dry fire yet? within the MP Reference forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; I spoke with someone at Smith today and they said the Black vs Silver strikers are only a result of them changing vendors. This guy ...
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|July 26th, 2010, 02:02 PM||#31|
Join Date: Jun 2009
I spoke with someone at Smith today and they said the Black vs Silver strikers are only a result of them changing vendors. This guy said they are no different in spec. The old vendor just wasnt getting it done keeping up with demand.
|July 26th, 2010, 02:15 PM||#32|
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St Petersburg, FL
I'm a competitive shooter. I shoot 800-1000 rounds per month. I also dry-fire 1000+ squeezes per month with my M&P Pro. That's almost 2000 striker/sear releases per month. I own 3 strikers for my gun. I'm on my second, since I swapped out the original at 10,000ish rounds. I have my old one, and a new one free from S&W if my current one breaks. The two new ones are the new design.
My trigger control is MUCH better due to dry fire. If mine breaks... I'll put the new one in. Mine hasn't broken. I've never used a snap cap...
|July 26th, 2010, 05:22 PM||#33|
Join Date: Apr 2010
Have used snap-caps as recommended back in early April and have not yet had any striker problems. Easily over 2000 live rounds, approx. 2000 dry-fires through wife's JG since late April '10. My 9mm Pro is on about the same pace, perphaps a little more dry-fire than my wife's 9. Thanks for the early advice regarding snap-caps and all the other tips posted on this forum. Dry-fire has really helped our trigger press/control and we are thinking about getting into a USPSA intro class here. A-Zoom 9mm caps can be hard to come by here, as the LGSs tend to sell out very quickly when shipments come in.
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|August 10th, 2010, 03:53 PM||#34|
Join Date: Aug 2010
Dry firing is an integral part of training and I do it for 30 minutes a day, minimum with everything from my Glock, M&P, Sigs, Nighthawks, etc. In most guns there's nothing that can go wrong and it's even recommended for 1911's and other platforms to "polish" the parts from use. I've asked a few 'smith friends and they've all said it's fine. I put about 35,000 rounds down range every year, give or take, (about 100 rounds a day) and I probably dry fire at least half that many times through all of my guns - though I'd probably not do it with a .22. If dry firing a couple thousand times in the life of a gun can break the firing pin, there's something very wrong with the design.
Even S&W seems to think it's fine on everything but their rimfires.
If anyone is that concerned, buy a second and install it if it breaks. The benefit of dry firing FAR OUTWEIGHS the $30 for a new firing pin, seriously. Sure, snap caps can help, I guess, but personally, i don't feel like loading up about 5 to 10 mags a day with snap caps then then load almost that many mags again with live ammo for the range trip which is daily or every other day.
Just my opinion, but I've dry fired every single day (almost) for the past ten years and have never once had a single issue through any of my M&Ps, 1911's, etc. Honestly, I'd say that dry firing is so important because of the things you can see that you can't with live fire, or at least see as easily, that it would be worth it to me to buy a new firing pin once every other month for $30 (less than the amount of ammo I shoot every other day) and replace it as preventative if the M&P firing pins are that much worse than any other manufacturer available.
Training is one of the most important things we can do if we carry a handgun. That to me is worth $30 - if the firing pins are really that bad, which I doubt. The only time I use snap caps is when I'm at the range and I mix a few in to my mags randomly with the live ammo for failure drills.
** Oh, my name is Jonathan and I'm a regular on Defensive Carry and the 1911 forums. I recently bought another M&P and Glock Gen 4 17 after about 2.5 years shooting only 1911's and Sigs. I shoot IDPA and attend a few classes each year.
|September 14th, 2010, 07:31 PM||#36|
Join Date: Feb 2010
I have thousands of dry fires through both my full size and compact 9 and have yet to have an issue, i don't normally use snap caps either unless i am working on my reloads or something along those lines.
either way i do have an extra striker in my range bag
|October 22nd, 2010, 04:07 PM||#39|
Join Date: Aug 2009
You won't "screw it up", but; snap caps or no snap caps, you might break a striker.
Keep at least one spare striker always, dry-fire to your heart's content, and replace the striker when it breaks.
|December 17th, 2010, 03:14 PM||#40|
Join Date: Dec 2010
So I'm curious... will S&W send out a revised striker assembly pro bono to customers? I have a brand new M&P9 that dates back to August 2009 production and I am positive it has the old black striker assembly. I find it a bit odd that we'd be expected to pay $30 for a spare part that they have already internally revised as part of their updates to the model line.
I'd rather get a spare in my hands ahead of time to be prepared for what sounds like inevitable failure on the older black assemblies. Anyone know for sure of S&W will just ship out the parts?
|December 18th, 2010, 11:54 AM||#42|
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Salish Sea
It depends on how nice you are to the S&W associate and which one you talk to. You may just get one for free but do not talk to them expecting it like it is an entitlement.
Expecting the revision for free is about the same as expecting a new car motor with the next years improvements for free.
|February 8th, 2011, 11:58 AM||#43|
Join Date: Feb 2011
Looks like this one has been answered to death but I thought I'd toss my two cents in as well. According to the FAQ on the S&W site:
|May 11th, 2011, 04:04 PM||#44|
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Between heaven and hell
Glad I found this thread because I was going to start one and ask the same question.
My thought is that the gun has to have some level of toughness because to empty gun and releave the striker, one would have to dry fire it on an empty chamber.
I figure if the cops don't break them, they're okay to dry fire on empty chamber. Afterall, you've got to dry fire it for disassembly/cleaning etc...
And we break EVERYTHING handed to us sooner or later.
|May 11th, 2011, 04:18 PM||#45|
Join Date: Feb 2011
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