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Old March 30th, 2014, 07:31 AM   #16
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I have a question for those that have had problems with CCI primers. Have you used as an example Speer LE Gold Dot Duty Ammunition 9mm +P 124 Gr GDHP 53617 or other Speer handgun ammunition that had ignition problems as CCI primers are employed as component ?
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Old November 12th, 2014, 08:50 AM   #17
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Fully Seated Primers

Dave In NH hit the nail right on the head.
The easiest way to check that your primer is seated correctly is to use calipers and verify that the primer is approx. 0.004" to 0.007" below the deck height of the head stamp. I had so many failures you could not believe it. I thought it was everything from week springs, to bad primers. After a 30 second phone call to CCI tech support, I have not had a problem since.
Hope this helps.
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Old November 12th, 2014, 10:49 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by G56 View Post
...Federal primers are fairly sensitive, they are considered "soft"...
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Thanks for the replies. I'll try Federals as I figure my load is not considered to be too hot. Funny though that I've never had problems using CCIs with my M&P FS with Duty Carry AEK.
I use mostly CCI and Federal and I've not had problems with either. G56 & others are correct that the Federals are 'softer'; just be careful of the potential issues there. I know Lee warns against using Federals in their primer feeders for that same reason. I've used several Lee presses over the years with all kinds of primers including Federal with no issues, but just be sure to read your press's manual & see if there are any warnings regarding different primer brands.
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Old November 12th, 2014, 01:33 PM   #19
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For what its worth -- I have never had a CCI primer fail (from over 3000 of them so far). I have also never had a CCI primer ignite when it was being pushed into the case. I have had three Winchester primers do exactly that -- very noisy.
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Old November 12th, 2014, 04:11 PM   #20
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Right before the primer shortage, I loaded up 2,000 rounds with CCI small pistol primers and had zero issues.

During the primer shortage I bought 10,000 Tula primers and I averaged 3-10 failures per 100. I still have 3,000 primers to go through. I am stocking up on CCI primers now. I hope to have the same success I had before with CCI.
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Old November 12th, 2014, 04:43 PM   #21
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I've only ever had two ammo related stoppages with my MP9. Both were the same box of CCI aluminum.
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Old November 13th, 2014, 01:21 AM   #22
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When I was having all my failure to fire (either no strike or light strikes - had both at the same time period) I did a pencil test with my guns.

The M&P would only bounce the pencil up about an inch to two inches. Even with the supposedly stronger Glock striker spring installed the pencil would not leave the barrel.

The Glock gave me similar results. The pencil would bounce up, but no come close to leaving the barrel.

The XDM would toss the pencil up a couple feed out of the barrel.

To me that means the XDM striker is hitting with way more force than either the M&P or the Glock.

I never had any failures to fire with my XDMs, with the same reloads, like I did with the M&Ps.

After I bought my CZ P07 I even loaded up a half a box of ammo with Tula small rifle primers (supposedly even hard enough for AR15 use) and all of them fired as if they were pistol primers.

Primers make a difference in some guns. Not in others.
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Old November 30th, 2014, 01:59 PM   #23
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I've never had any problems with CCI primers, when I started loading back in the 70's that's about the only primer I could get locally.
I use Winchesters now, and occasionally Federal's.
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Old March 11th, 2015, 03:02 PM   #24
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No CCI Failures

I've reloaded over 1k rounds using CCI primers in both 9mm & .223/5.56 and the only failures I've experienced are reloading press related: tipped, crushed, etc. Never had a misfire.
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 06:21 PM   #25
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Oops! Correction: had one CCI no-fire recently. First time! Primer was marked by striker. Wondering how dry firing using snap caps for practice might affect striker?
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Old June 4th, 2015, 01:24 PM   #26
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Had some light primer strikes in a P250 .45 with CCI.

Ive been running Remington SPP for .40 in our M&P, running USPSA with them and not a problem.

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Old June 4th, 2015, 04:36 PM   #27
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I've had issues with CCIs but presumably because I did not seat them all the way. I got an ergo roller handle for my LNL AP which allows me to easily exert more force during the seating process which means my primers are now properly seated.

If they don't go bang the first time, they usually will the second time around.
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Old June 5th, 2015, 02:57 PM   #28
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Ive got a primer on my Lee turret, but before I had my turret I used the Ram Prime, and without fail... worked a treat!

Its WAY easier on the hands too, try priming 500 pieces of brass with a hand primer and call me when your trying to sleep that night but cant because your hands hurt. :-)

Lee C style press with Ram Prime:

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Old March 14th, 2016, 09:00 AM   #29
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I've not had any issues thus far after loading over 2000 CCI primers recently. I did have a few light primer strikes on some remington primers. I removed the striker assembly in an effort to change the striker spring, as many have suggested. What I found was the striker assembly was very dirty. I cleaned it with alcohol, cleaned and air dried the breech face and reassembled. No more problems. Might be something to check.
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