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This is a discussion on any input on this Powder? within the MP Reloading forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; I am using the "Universal" data in the Hornady handloader 9th edition: 1100 FPS: 4.5gr CSB-1, CCI 500 primer, 115 RN Rainier Ballistics (looks like ...


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Old December 21st, 2014, 06:46 PM   #16
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I am using the "Universal" data in the Hornady handloader 9th edition:
1100 FPS: 4.5gr CSB-1, CCI 500 primer, 115 RN Rainier Ballistics (looks like the 115gr FMJRN). the C.O.L says 1.10" but I only went 1.1150"...

My only concern is on the final crimp. How do you know you have enough crimp? I am using a Hornady single stage and they say turn the set screw down till it stops and add 1/8 turn, but I can still see the flare at the bullet seat so I turned it a touch more till I did not see the flare out at the seat...

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5 is way too high, had you stuffed that bullet too low, u may have blown your chamber. Always stay below published data, especially on a new powder!
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Old December 24th, 2014, 12:50 PM   #17
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CSB-1 is similar to Unique/Universal and your mid 4g loads for 9mm should be good enough and as other say, 5 is a bit overboard.

CSB-5 is faster burning and closer to Red Dot/Clays in speed. It would be good for full pressure low velocity/low recoil loads and light (3/4 oz) 12 gauge shotgun loads.

Too bad they charge so much for the powder. Alliant powder is starting to show up on the shelves again. I just bought 8# of Red Dot for $125 OTD a couple of weeks ago, but that was the first time in a year. They had jugs of Green Dot, Unique and Bullseye at the time, but of course it was gone by mid day and the powders haven't been seen since except in 1# bottles occasionally. If CSB powders hit the market 6 months ago they would have been the only game in town and could have gotten a strong foothold. If they can price themselves a tiny bit below Alliant and prove to be reliable in supply, I think they can do really well.
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Old December 25th, 2014, 06:32 PM   #18
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9mm does not really crimp. It only rolls out the lip you placed to push the bullet in.
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Old December 26th, 2014, 02:28 PM   #19
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Wrong wording on my part. rolling the flair back in is were I was going with this.

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9mm does not really crimp. It only rolls out the lip you placed to push the bullet in.
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Old January 28th, 2015, 12:46 PM   #20
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I've been loading csb1 in my 45 loads, distributor recommended 5.8 for a 230 gr bullet ( didn't specify plated, lead, or jacketed, but I'm guessing jacketed).

I've been using 5.6 under plated and coated bullets, 225-230 gr.

I'm satisfied with it, ammo shoots better than I do. No signs of over pressure, I haven't been able to chrome it yet, but it feels very similar to typical factory hardball.

Since I'm on my last hopper of n340, I'll soon be using this for 9mm with 124 gr coated and plated pills.
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Old February 1st, 2015, 06:54 PM   #21
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We just loaded up 30 @ 4.0 and 100 @4.3 to see what they do. We have shot the 4.5 and the wife and I like that grouping... I want to see if I can reduce the recoil muzzle jump for the wife till she gets more comfortable burst shots with it..
I need to find a day when we both are off and crono the loads just for record also.
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Old February 24th, 2016, 03:44 AM   #22
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American Reloading powders

I have been loading the #1, #5, and Competition Pistol powders from American Reloading for 3 years now. Prior to that N320.

4.7G over 115g Xtreme full plated RN, S&B primers. 1100FPS. Not as clean as N320 but none the less, pretty clean. I load for myself and two other friends who help out. We are all USPSA and Steel Challenge shooters and put about 1K down range every two weeks.

We have found no accuracy issues at the distances in which we compete and between the three of us have had only 4 FTF on light strikes.

We shoot in Open with ported CORE one Glock, in Limited with Sig 226 X6L1, and CZ CTS, in Single Stack M2i(1911) from Matt McLearn and STI ...all in 9mm

Others may have other experiences but this is what we have found.
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Old February 27th, 2016, 06:44 PM   #23
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I purchased a 5 pound jug of this powder, CSB-1, from Hi-Tech about 18 months ago. I believe that I paid 90-100 dollars for 5 pounds. Here are the results of my load experiments:

9mm 124 gr FMJ 4.4 gr CSB-1 M&P Full size 1043 fps Compact 1013 fps


45 ACP 230 gr FMJ 5.5 gr CSB-1 M&P Full size 763 fps Kimber 1911 791 fps

In short, this powder was a good substitute for my normal powders during the recent past shortage.

Chronograph was a Oehler 33.
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Peg', if you jumped from 4.5 grains to 5 grains, well, with some powders that could blow up a gun. With all loading one starts with a reduced load and works up... slowly. I increase 1/10th of a grain with handgun cartridges. You'll never see pressure signs until long after the gun blows up.

Pressure can be a friend but it can become an enemy very rapidly.

But you do what you want. It's your gun, your hand, and your life. I just had to make sure you knew for the sake of my conscience.
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