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Old February 22nd, 2015, 01:59 PM   #1
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Anyone using this powder for s&w 40 155 gr xtp jhp ? Was using unique pistol powder for years cant get it around here,Just got back from gun show with some alliant BE-86 .Going to work up a new load , Thought I would see if anyone has any ideas .
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Old February 22nd, 2015, 02:20 PM   #2
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Its a new powder, I'm not familiar with it. Here's the link to Alliant's data, don't forget to reduce by 10% for the starting loads.

Alliant Powder - Reloader's Guide
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Old February 22nd, 2015, 03:18 PM   #3
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The Alliant web site shows it and lists recommended loads for a variety of rounds including .40 S&W
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 11:33 AM   #4
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I have not used it for 40 S&W 155 gr JHP, but I have used it for 165 gr FMJ and 165 gr Coated LRNFN with very good results. BE-86 meters much better than Unique and it burns cleaner. Like they said above Alliant only lists max loads, just reduce by 10% for a start load. Just for information 7.2 grs BE-86 under a 165 gr FMJ/FN gets 1141.7 FPS (10 shot average) out of a 4.2 inch barrel. This is a near Max Load. Alliant lists 7.5 grs as Max.
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Old February 26th, 2015, 06:28 AM   #5
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BE-86 is like a modern Bullseye. Meters really well and burn pretty clean. I use it for .357SIG, 125 Montana Gold JHP over 7.8 grains at 1.140"
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Old May 4th, 2015, 05:05 PM   #6
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hows the BE86 loads coming? i was thinking about given it a try myself for 9mm loads and might do some 357sig too.
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Old May 6th, 2015, 07:03 AM   #7
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Not sure what is meant by a "modern Bullseye," as it is a lot closer to a "modern Unique" in terms of burn rate.
I think Alliant names all their non-canister pistol powders BE-**, and they just kept the name for this one.
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I am not sure how new it is to the commercial industry. I spoke with someone at Alliant , he told me that it has been used for awhile in commercial loads however it is a new release to the hand loader. Lee
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Old May 6th, 2015, 10:54 AM   #9
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BE-86 is said to be Power Pistol with flash suppressant added. I havnt tried any yet as I have A good stash of Tite Group, Bullseye and HP38
But I plan to give it A try when I run across some.
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Old May 14th, 2015, 05:59 AM   #10
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Loads are quite different from Power Pistol, so it isn't like the change from WAP to Silhouette. Both Power Pistol and BE-86 have a nasty tendency to clump up and not feed smoothly and stick together so bad that they practically have to be chopped out of a ChargeMaster with an icepick.
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Old May 15th, 2015, 08:09 AM   #11
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There are a wealth of comments over at the High Road on BE-86 (BE-86 - THR) and I think the consensus is that it is closer to Unique than either Bullseye or Power Pistol. It's interesting enought that I'm considering moving to BE-86 once I finish off my 7 remaining pounds of HP-38.

Regarding the comment on metering Power Pistol, I found it meters very well in my Hornady LnL - to less than 0.1 gn variation and I'll take that all day long. Like most powders go, however, you need to watch for static as that will cause you some grief on clumping, metering, etc.
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Old May 15th, 2015, 10:16 AM   #12
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I loaded some coated 230 LRN 45. I also loaded test rounds with Unique as this was a new bullet for me. Accuracy was better with Unique than BE-86 in my test loads. Flash still brighter than Unique. The inside of the BE-86 cases were not much cleaner. I loaded both powders them mid to near max.

I might try BE-86 with lighter bullets and maybe in 9.
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Old July 27th, 2015, 10:42 AM   #13
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Loads are quite different from Power Pistol, so it isn't like the change from WAP to Silhouette. Both Power Pistol and BE-86 have a nasty tendency to clump up and not feed smoothly and stick together so bad that they practically have to be chopped out of a ChargeMaster with an icepick.
Is it possible your powder got damp?
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Old July 28th, 2015, 04:07 PM   #14
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Umm, no, Unless the factory shipped them "wet," they are as "dry" as the day they left the factory.
I am on my third lot of PP and they have all been clumpy.
My first lot of PP actually "poured" out of the bottle in clumps.
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Old October 9th, 2016, 03:22 PM   #15
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I like BE86, very similar to unique, but cleaner in my opinion. I use it in my 9`s and my 45`s.
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