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Old March 22nd, 2015, 06:48 PM   #16
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I have loaded over 6000 rounds of 9mm my Lee Loadmaster since November and have zero problems with the priming system. That's with Win, Rem, and CCI primers. Maybe it's the older units that have the problems.
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Old April 13th, 2015, 05:50 PM   #17
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Lee presses final update

Really like the Dillon XL650. Initial setup went fairly easy for severely OCD'd dude (me). Ran off about a dozen .223 rounds w/o too much delay. But am having occasional primer seating issues: not seated all the way, crushed, (actually had one detonate! scary)and probably due to first-time user errors. They all fired and ejected fine in rifle. Have loaded probably 50-60 since then and still getting some primer seating problems (no detonation). See tiny silver half-moon shavings in the trough for unused primers. Can't tell if they're from the primers or cases. Dillon advice is to check for military brass and/or swage the pockets. Also advised to see if I could start a primer just a tad in a pocket by hand to see what gives. I have to really force the primer into the pocket feeling resistance in the lever.

Since then I ordered, received and installed caliber conversion to 9mm and been loading those. Amazing from what I was used to! Primers seat smoothly and with minimum of leverage (now I have something to compare to with the .223s). I'm loading Accurate #2 with Extreme 115 gr fmj bullets started at 4.2-4.4gr-they were very light wouldn't eject. Next batch was 4.4-4.6gr and they worked better but still felt light compared to store-bought reloads. Now have a few loaded at 4.6 max load from Lee book haven't fired yet. I'm wondering if my crimp die is set correctly? When I break down a load it only takes one maybe two strikes from the hammer tool and I did have two loose bullets drop into the cases slightly (two out of 25). The bullets have a slight ring indent on the fmj (no cannelure). Anyway, any ideas on how to properly adjust the crimp?

Will cruise through the forum and see what I come up with.
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Old April 13th, 2015, 06:40 PM   #18
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I badly want a really neat piece of light-blue multi-stage reloading equipment (that means Dillon). But there is a problem.

I have an early model Rock Chucker single stage. Its from around 1969. Some of its green paint is looking a bit dull lately and I had to buy it a new bicycle handlebar grip for its handle. It has reloaded about 87 bazillion rounds (mostly 9mm, but its done some 380 lately).

I really want, and someday will buy a Dillon. But I have to wait till the RC wears out. Should be sometime in the next couple of centuries. I could, of course buy it some new parts. It only has about 12 of them.
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Old April 13th, 2015, 07:17 PM   #19
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Yea sounds like you ran into some crimped primer pockets on those 223.
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Old April 13th, 2015, 07:36 PM   #20
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Your 223 brass has crimped primers, the little slivers of metal you are seeing are a dead giveaway. It is rare to find any kind of 223 brass without crimped primers, at one time Remington 223 brass wasn't crimped, but I've heard that even Remington is crimped now, I don't know since I don't buy factory ammo except for handgun personal defense use. The best solution is the Dillon Super Swage, it is expensive though, but its the best, and its fast to use. An alternative is a primer pocket reamer like the Hornady primer pocket reamer, a best buy is to get the package with both large and small reamers.

Hornady Primer Pocket Reamer Package

I'm not sure if you are running plated bullets or full metal jacket, but generally if you have a ring around the bullet your crimp is probably adequate.

jwh321 mentioned he has an old Rock Chucker, I have one I bought new in 1970, did you know they are marked for the year of manufacture? Right on the top where the adapter screws in. Note the old color of green, that isn't faded, its the original color.

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Old April 14th, 2015, 07:47 AM   #21
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long live rock chuckers!

Never hear anything bad from a Rock Chucker.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 07:08 PM   #22
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Never hear anything bad from a Rock Chucker.
I have one I bought used about 30 years ago; I keep a swaging die in it for when I run across brass with crimped primers.

I've been using a RL 550 B for over 20 years now; no way I'd ever to back to a single stage press, or a press made by Lee.

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Old April 15th, 2015, 06:49 AM   #23
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Never hear anything bad from a Rock Chucker.
OK, now load a run of 1000 rounds of 9 mm followed by 1000 .38 Specials and see if that Rock Chucker seems so satisfactory.

I also use a "single stage" (actually a Redding Turret) for rifle loads when I'm doing 25 to 50 rounds at a time but it would be WAY too slow for volume stuff.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 07:34 PM   #24
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I still use my Rock Chucker, I load a large variety of rifle calibers, most in very small volume, and those I still load on the Rock Chucker. Higher volume rifle calibers are loaded in what might be called a two step process, I load 223/5.56 and 300 Blackout that way. The process works this way:

Stage one
Brass is cleaned
Dillon spray lube is applied
Cases are sized on the Rock Chucker
Cases are tumbled again to remove the lube
Cases are trimmed and stored, ready to load

Stage two
Loading is finished on the Dillon
First die stage has a universal depriming die to make sure the flash hole is clear
Case has primer seated
Charged with powder
Bullet is seated and crimped if desired

Some people will get a spare tool head and do their resizing on the Dillon, using a tool head with only the sizing die in it. Maybe they don't have a single stage press, or they might just prefer to do it that way.
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I just got my Lee Classic Turret a while back, graduating from a Lee C style single stage, and simply love it! Im pretty happy with the setup and cant see me going to a progressive, I simply dont have enough free time to burn enough ammo to justify a progressive.

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The less time it takes to reload, means you have more time to shoot.
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Old June 21st, 2015, 06:34 PM   #27
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The more I use the Lee's the more I think about a Dillon (650). Wondering if you load multiple calibers? If so, what's the change-out like?
It's not bad, changing the primer plug from large to small or the other way around takes the longest amount of time.
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 04:23 PM   #28
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I went with the lee turret myself as well. I don't shoot enough to justify the huge jump in price going from the lee to a dillon.
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Getting the gear together to start loading 223 on my turret. I still have no interest in a progressive, at least at this time... If I do it will likely be something other than Lee... Lee's single stage and turret are great and thats as far as Im willing to drive the bus.


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Using a Lee Turret press here also. Opened up a whole new world of shooting fun for me as I pretty much neglected my pistols when I was loading everything single stage.


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