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Old December 23rd, 2016, 09:25 AM   #16
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Do you crimp your bullets?
I never have on 40 call.

But seeing it a lot on 9mm.
Was wondering if you can get away with not crimping?
Just my opinion, but ALL ammo should have a crimp of some sort, just to keep them from having bullet set-back under recoil. The 9mm is a tapered case and needs a crimp. I use a separate TAPER crimp for all my semi-auto`s, i use a factory ROLL crimp die (usually a LEE die) for most revolver`s. You would use a TAPER crimp on most semi-auto`s because most will headspace on the case mouth. The roll crimp on revolver`s use the rim of the case.

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Some auto pistols use a rimmed cartridge... therfore a roll crimp should to be used
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Old December 28th, 2016, 12:27 PM   #17
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Anyone else have some good loads they like out of there 9mm sheild?
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Old December 28th, 2016, 12:28 PM   #18
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Does anyone else have loads they like out of there 9mm sheild
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Old December 29th, 2016, 03:19 PM   #19
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Anyone using power pistol for 9mm?
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Old December 29th, 2016, 06:13 PM   #20
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My other favorite 9mm load is a cast 122gr LTCFP over 3.9grs of VV N320.

It's cheap to shoot, and quite accurate. The truncated cone flat point also feeds very well in autos.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 12:13 PM   #21
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Berry's HBFT 124gr(.356) HP38 3.9-4.0 gr COAL 1.06
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Lee Mold 356-120-TC dropps 126gr at .358 HP39 3.5-3.9gr COAL 1.03 (Still Testing) my own casts
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Berry's HBFT 124gr(.356) HP38 3.9-4.0 gr COAL 1.06
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Lee Mold 356-120-TC dropps 126gr at .358 HP39 3.5-3.9gr COAL 1.03 (Still Testing) my own casts
Do you get any accuracy from those berry`s hollow base plated bullets...???
I`ve yet to ever find a load that works worth a dang with hollow base anything in plated bullets.
Personally, i think with the hollow base, the weight missing in the rear of the bullet is the issue.

My pet load lately is the 124gr berry`s round nose plated, with hodgdon CFE-pistol powder @ 4.9gr and OAL @ 1.149 to 1.150
I average 1-1/2 groups (sometimes less) depending on how steady i am that day at the indoor range.

I`m using that same LEE mold you are... exception to mine dropping at 117gr to 118gr.
Yours looks to have a bit more lead content in your mix ratio compared to mine.
Same powder (Hodgdon CFE-Pistol) @ 4.9. Getting 2in accuracy. (OAL 1.050)
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Do you get any accuracy from those berry`s hollow base plated bullets...???
I`ve yet to ever find a load that works worth a dang with hollow base anything in plated bullets.
Personally, i think with the hollow base, the weight missing in the rear of the bullet is the issue.

My pet load lately is the 124gr berry`s round nose plated, with hodgdon CFE-pistol powder @ 4.9gr and OAL @ 1.149 to 1.150
I average 1-1/2 groups (sometimes less) depending on how steady i am that day at the indoor range.

I`m using that same LEE mold you are... exception to mine dropping at 117gr to 118gr.
Yours looks to have a bit more lead content in your mix ratio compared to mine.
Same powder (Hodgdon CFE-Pistol) @ 4.9. Getting 2in accuracy. (OAL 1.050)
I dont smoke mine and i use range scrap + very very little pewter.
For the Berry's HBFP they do shoot very well and seated at 1.06. They pass plunk test for PT111 G2 and Shield. 500 rounds no fails and accurate.
Here is my recent test results of my cast boolits
Guns: PT111 G2 and Shield
COAL:1.03-1.025
Sized: .358
Powder: HP-38
Tested boolits: 3.5, 3.7, 3.9, 3.5 w/FCD, 3.7 w/FCD, 3.9 w/FCD.
FYI: Non-FCD had 4 failure to feed/eject
3.9 had slight primer cratering and very slight primer swaging
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MAX COAL of Shield was 1.033
MAX COAL of PT111 G2 was 1.62
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I dont smoke mine and i use range scrap + very very little pewter.
For the Berry's HBFP they do shoot very well and seated at 1.06. They pass plunk test for PT111 G2 and Shield. 500 rounds no fails and accurate.
Here is my recent test results of my cast boolits
Guns: PT111 G2 and Shield
COAL:1.03-1.025
Sized: .358
Powder: HP-38
Tested boolits: 3.5, 3.7, 3.9, 3.5 w/FCD, 3.7 w/FCD, 3.9 w/FCD.
FYI: Non-FCD had 4 failure to feed/eject
3.9 had slight primer cratering and very slight primer swaging
For this boolit
MAX COAL of Shield was 1.033
MAX COAL of PT111 G2 was 1.62
Nice Jav, thank you for sharing...!
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Got 124 Rn x tremes coming going to try power pistol and silouette and tight group. Will keep you all posted.
On results out of sheild. Great information on here guys thanks
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Got 124 Rn x tremes coming going to try power pistol and silouette and tight group. Will keep you all posted.
On results out of sheild. Great information on here guys thanks
I`ve never had ANY luck with titegroup. Not to mention how scary the pressure`s change so drastically.
Best luck i`ve had is Hodgdon CFE-Pistol. I worked up a load to 4.9 grains w/124 round nose plated.
Its a bullseye killer in ALL my 9mm guns...!!!! lol

Hodgdon CFE-Pistol Powder @ 4.9gr
Berry`s Plated 124gr RN
Seated 1.149 to 1.150
WW Primer WSP

I`d like to try that power pistol... let me know how you make out with that on.
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I am always facinated by the folks who hate TiteGroup. I love the stuff. Yes, you have to be diligent in using it to avoid overcharging and subsequent over pressure. But if you use it correctly, it is very easy to use..measures easily and consistently, and is sure accurate for me in my loadings.
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My standard load in 9mm is 4.6 gr of WW231 behind a 115 gr jacketed bullet, that has now changed to a plated bullet. The cartridge is lightly taper crimped to prevent setback. I've been using that load for about 40 years now, the switch from jacketed bullets to plated was dictated by the huge price increases on jacketed bullets, I used to be able to buy those in bulk pretty cheap, but those are long gone.
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My standard load in 9mm is 4.6 gr of WW231 behind a 115 gr jacketed bullet, that has now changed to a plated bullet. The cartridge is lightly taper crimped to prevent setback. I've been using that load for about 40 years now, the switch from jacketed bullets to plated was dictated by the huge price increases on jacketed bullets, I used to be able to buy those in bulk pretty cheap, but those are long gone.
Same here John, the Berry`s plated are working great for me. I was at the local indoor range today, shot 1 inch groups @ 7yds all day with 124gr on top of 4.9gr Hodgdon CFE Pistol powder, seated 1.150 OAL, WSP primer.

Gun was my M&P Ported 9L
I did the trigger job my self, shoots like a dream

While at the range, i took my custom build PC Shield 9mm for a spin... 1-1/2 groups consistently.
Used the same reload as in my 9L. It just works...!
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Same here John, the Berry`s plated are working great for me. I was at the local indoor range today, shot 1 inch groups @ 7yds all day with 124gr on top of 4.9gr Hodgdon CFE Pistol powder, seated 1.150 OAL, WSP primer.

Gun was my M&P Ported 9L
I did the trigger job my self, shoots like a dream

While at the range, i took my custom build PC Shield 9mm for a spin... 1-1/2 groups consistently.
Used the same reload as in my 9L. It just works...!
Thanks for information will try that load next
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