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Shield recoil spring/racking problem.

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Old December 28th, 2016, 06:42 AM   #61
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Shield recoil springs are pretty rough&tough when brand new. You wont see them loosen up until after a couple hundred rounds, BUT, some may require even more break-in time. All mine were VERY stiff to rack the slides, until i shot them in. Now ALL my shields rack VERY nicely. Key factor, LUBRICATE the god dam recoil spring assembly...!!!!! They`ll come around, just shoot the hell out of it.

Keep in mind, these dual springs are heavy for this particular little gun. This is ALSO the reason why everyone who tests a shield, are the very same people that say "WOWWWW, THIS THING SHOOTS SO SMOOTH, THE RECOIL IS SO LIGHT, I HARDLY FEEL IT" Well duhhhhh... dual heavy recoil spring soaking up the recoil effect...!

With all these little pocket guns coming out into the market, the complaints just pile up. (and NONE of them shoot as nice as a shield for felt recoil, but not without trade-off`s) Big guns in the same caliber use the mass of the gun to manipulate felt recoil, thus requiring less of a recoil spring pressure working against a heavier slide. Small guns are lighter, work harder, so a heavier spring is required because the slides are so much smaller/lighter. You gotta keep a heavier recoil spring to keep the smaller gun from beating itself to death...hence, harder to rack it. And think about it, its harder to get ahold of a smaller slide just to rack it. Now throw a heavy spring into it....DERP...!!!!

One of the biggest things i see with people that complain about the shield`s recoil spring, and some post pictures... whats the first thing i see, the god dam spring is dry as a fuggin bone...DUHHHH...!!!! Its got to move, slide, manipulate, no lube, no move. Ever heard of friction...???? ITS NEW, ITS TIGHT, LUBE THE DAM THING, SHOOT IT IN...!

One other thing i see people miss on... sticking slides. (these guns ARE mass produced...!)
Remove the recoil spring, remove the barrel... does the slide move freely on the frame...?
If it doesn`t, you got problems, and its NOT the recoil spring or barrel causing it.
To many people blaming recoil spring assemblies right off the bat.
So lets check EVERYTHING as a whole, before we condemn.

So, now either we can sit here and complain, or we can just go shoot the hell outta these shields.
I`ll choose the latter. Lube-n-Shoot-Lube-n-Shoot-Lube-n-Shoot...!!!!!
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New recoil assemblies are cheap enough. Compared to a Kahr that I own, this S&W line of firearms are a breeze to rack the slide, even before firing. If you can't rack the slide on these firearms, maybe you need a revolver.
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Funny I dont lube the spring and iirc the manual does not show it as an oil point.
I have never lubed a recoil spring on any semi autos and has never been an issue.

I do agree folks claim stiffness but it is nothing more than inherent to a small frame large caliber semi.

You cant slow a light weight slide down with a light weight spring. Especially in under 4 inches of travel.


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New recoil assemblies are cheap enough. Compared to a Kahr that I own, this S&W line of firearms are a breeze to rack the slide, even before firing. If you can't rack the slide on these firearms, maybe you need a revolver.
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Funny I dont lube the spring and iirc the manual does not show it as an oil point.
I have never lubed a recoil spring on any semi autos and has never been an issue.

I do agree folks claim stiffness but it is nothing more than inherent to a small frame large caliber semi.

You cant slow a light weight slide down with a light weight spring. Especially in under 4 inches of travel.


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Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Just to let you know, there are no rules when it comes to lubing the recoil spring. Lets just say i like oil in my crankcase, it makes things within the engine, shall we say, move smoother.

I do lube my recoil springs when brand new, not as much or as often after they get worked in/broken in. The lube helps polish the recoil assembly. If you choose not to do that, i`m ok with it, its your gun, treat it however you like.
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You cant slow a light weight slide down with a light weight spring. Especially in under 4 inches of travel.


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I think you might have kinda missed my point... its a balance of slide weight vs recoil vs spring pressure. Some of this some of that, all has to work together.
Light loads require lighter springs, heavier loads require heavier rated springs... tuning the loads to the gun to make it all work... it ALL has to have a balance.

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Shield recoil spring/racking problem.

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I think you might have kinda missed my point... its a balance of slide weight vs recoil vs spring pressure. Some of this some of that, all has to work together.
Light loads require lighter springs, heavier loads require heavier rated springs... tuning the loads to the gun to make it all work... it ALL has to have a balance.


No I understood exactly what you meant.
It takes a stiff spring on a short barrel period.
Physics cant be overcome




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Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Just to let you know, there are no rules when it comes to lubing the recoil spring. Lets just say i like oil in my crankcase, it makes things within the engine, shall we say, move smoother.



I do lube my recoil springs when brand new, not as much or as often after they get worked in/broken in. The lube helps polish the recoil assembly. If you choose not to do that, i`m ok with it, its your gun, treat it however you like.


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