This is a discussion on CCW revelations on traffic stops. within the MP SHIELD Pistols forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; I keep my registration and proof of insurance folded up and just sticking out of the visor mirror door, so there's no reaching into the ...
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|March 9th, 2016, 12:40 PM||#31|
Join Date: Sep 2015
I keep my registration and proof of insurance folded up and just sticking out of the visor mirror door, so there's no reaching into the glove box. My CCW permits are beside my license in my wallet. I drive a bright red Dodge Charger, so I have to behave myself as it is!
|August 1st, 2016, 05:02 AM||#33|
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: New York
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|August 1st, 2016, 07:40 AM||#34|
Join Date: Aug 2013
I have always kept my hand on the steering wheel as the officer approaches, I also have the inside light on in the car so to put the officer at ease. As soon as the officer comes to the car I let him know that I am armed while still leaving my hands on the steering wheel. You can also put them out the window so they are always in the officers sight. I want to make the officer as comfortable as possible. I have been stopped a couple of times for speeding and never had a problem doing it this way.
My State (Kentucky) tells the officer when they call my tag in that I am a CCDW holder. So they already know before they approach.
|August 14th, 2016, 03:35 PM||#35|
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Dayton OH
Most states the officer already knows when they run your plate. At least in ohio.
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|August 14th, 2016, 07:09 PM||#36|
Join Date: Sep 2006
Back when I was an officer Oklahoma didn't have civilian CCW at all, certainly no in car computers back then, things have changed quite a bit in the years since then.
|August 15th, 2016, 02:54 AM||#37|
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: San Antonio Texas
Im a member of TX Law Shield
Got this in the news letter they email out.
Pertains to Texas but has good points for those in other states.
Texas Law Shield Independent Program Attorney Emily Taylor:
So, how should you handle a police encounter when youíre driving in your car and all of a sudden you see the flashing red or blue lights behind you? Well, first thing is pull off to the right side of the road as
quickly as possible. If itís nighttime, put on your dome light. If itís daytime, roll down your windows.
When the officer approaches your window, just be calm, polite and follow all of his instructions. If youíd like to have further clarification about what he needs from you, asking a calm question is never a bad idea. Heíll instruct you specifically as to how he wants you to behave. What happens if when you get pulled over you have a Texas license to carry a handgun? Well, the law in this area is a little bit confusing. So, weíll walk through it.
First of all, if you have a license to carry, the only time youíre legally obligated to show it to the officer is when you are, in fact, carrying, so if you have a gun in your car and you have a license to carry, you should hand over that license with your driverís license. Now, this is what starts to get a little bit confusing.
Technically there is no penalty for failing to hand over the license. The law is on the books. The law says you must hand it over if youíre carrying. However, the legislature has failed to include a penalty in this law. So, if you forget, if you decline to hand over your license, nothing bad is going to happen to you except that you might have an angry officer on your hands.
Frankly, we recommend that any time you have a license to carry a handgun and youíre pulled over, you should hand over your license to carry with your driverís license. Even if youíre not carrying, even if you donít think you should have to, itís just something that can be helpful in your traffic stop. The officer will oftentimes already know that you have one from having run your driverís license when he pulled you over. And officers tend to like people who have a license to carry. It might make your traffic stop a little bit more pleasant.
What happens if you have a gun in your car when youíre pulled over? Do you have an affirmative duty to tell the officer about the presence of weapons? No, actually you donít. And in fact, we recommend that you not affirmatively disclose this information. It could complicate a traffic stop that would otherwise be very ordinary, very run-of-the-mill. If you have a license to carry, you should hand it over and your officer will probably say, Is there a gun in the car?
Absolutely, be honest. Tell them exactly where it is. Donít reach for it when he asks you that, but make sure he knows where it is in the car. If you donít have a license to carry and he just happens to ask you this question, ďDo you have anything in the car I should know about, any weapons, firearms?Ē, of course be honest. But we recommend not disclosing this information before youíre asked.
Do the police need a warrant to search your car after youíve been pulled over? No. Actually this is one of the largest exceptions to the warrant requirement. All a police officer has to do is articulate that he has probable cause that thereís evidence of a crime in your vehicle. So long as he can say he has probable cause, heís allowed to search your car, no warrant required.
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|August 24th, 2016, 06:36 PM||#41|
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Tulsa OK
In Oklahoma you have to tell them you are carrying and provide your permit.
If the gun is in a holster or a console, they usually have you just come get in their car.
I got stopped in missouri and you have to tell them there.
He got in my console, crossed me 9 times with a hot weapon trying to figure out how to unload and the only reason I didn't go bat crap crazy on him was because it was a 1911 aand they safety was on the whole time.
I was also trying not to flip out because an airplane had me doing 85 in a 70.
He took my gun and was gone a good 15 minutes. I know he was running the serial.
After he gave me a break and wrote me a ticket for following to close isntead of speeding which is more points, after he gave me the ticket and I asked him if we were through I chewed him up and down and used profanity over the fact that he crossed me so many times with a hot weapon and he literally turned redfaced apologized and told me to have a good day. I called his troop number , told his captain what he di and I got a lot of lip service. He's probably been promoted since.
|August 26th, 2016, 05:43 PM||#42|
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Tulsa OK
I can understand how LE is scared as hell because of the craziness going on around the country. I have strong feelings as to why this is going one but I will leave that out of this.
I have always carried my wallet in my front pocket.
In my Tundra, a 1911 is under the steering wheel in a gum creek Holster.
It is a natural and neutral motion for me to grip it and bring it bare.
In my 2016 Camry, I can't because it has knee airbags and I carry it in a holster stuffed between the seat and console.
So with the things going on today I started thinking, I don't want to get shot 17 times by a LEO that is nervious and just wants to go home to his family.
I put my Proof of insurance and registration in sunvisor and my wallet on the console.
If I get stopped, my windows are down before the officer approaches. If it's night I turn on the dome lights.
My hands are on the steering wheel with my fingers extended and I then hand them my paperwork and pickup my wallet and pull my license and permit out and they realize they are holding a DL and a permit and oh by the way officer, I am carrying a handgun right now.
I kind of live by the saying, just because I am paranoid does not mean they aren't out to get me.
Oh and now I have my shield in my waistband as well.
|September 4th, 2016, 05:45 PM||#43|
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Atlanta Georgia Area
Just found this and thought it worthy of posting here in this thread:
Do You Have A Duty To Inform When Carrying Concealed? We Look At All 50 States For The Answers ? Concealed Nation
|September 5th, 2016, 04:37 PM||#44|
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Middle Tennessee
Our permits are tied in with our driver's license, same number. If they run a license number they know you have a permit. When I am in a vehicle now...I put my insurance and registration above the steering wheel. I am more cautious now about speeding or doing something stupid.
|September 10th, 2016, 03:17 AM||#45|
Join Date: Dec 2015
One thing is for sure, when the officer tells you to show him your hands, don't reach back to your back pocket for your CCW license. Sometimes when people are nervous to do incredibly stupid things.
Last edited by Mountain Walker; September 10th, 2016 at 08:15 AM.
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