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Old January 28th, 2016, 08:33 AM   #1
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CCW revelations on traffic stops.

I'm very curious!
In process of obtaining my CA CCW.
Each state/county has it's own 'disclosure' rules/regs if you get pulled over for traffic infractions, etc.
Some, you MUST disclose immediately; others, not so.
Any stories, adventures, experiences would be much appreciated.
Helps one know the lay of the different lands one travels with a piece in the vehicle.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 09:28 AM   #2
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Tom Gresham has a video out about that very subject, in the video they show a simulated traffic stop where the driver hands his CCW permit over with his drivers license and insurance papers. This avoids the use of the word gun during the traffic stop which can get an officer overly concerned, and also fills the need to notify.

Several prominent self defense instructors have said that is the method they recommend, and allows the officer to then go ahead and ask you about where the weapon might be located.

Found it! http://www.gunsandammo.com/video/tip...d-by-police-2/

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Old January 28th, 2016, 10:38 AM   #3
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Tom Gresham has a video out about that very subject, in the video they show a simulated traffic stop where the driver hands his CCW permit over with his drivers license and insurance papers. This avoids the use of the word gun during the traffic stop which can get an officer overly concerned, and also fills the need to notify.

Several prominent self defense instructors have said that is the method they recommend, and allows the officer to then go ahead and ask you about where the weapon might be located.

Found it! Tips When Stopped By Police - Guns & Ammo
Good video. Still can be a bit of slippery slope in any situation.

How about the drivers with their billfold in their rear pocket ? Woman with purse on the floor ? Pull over as far as you can safely stop, partially open your window, STAY IN the vehicle, keep both hands on the steering wheel in plain sight and let the officer know you have a Canceled Carry Permit and DON'T make any sudden moves. Follow the Officers instructions. Is the way they prefer it around here.

"SOME" officers tell me they don't really want to know, IF it's a "routine" stop. ????? "SOME" say if they see an unknown weapon on you, that Mr. Taser is going to bite you.
Luckily around here, I've grown up around and with just about ALL the local LEO's and have trained or shot with them at one time or another.

Everyone knows everyone.

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Old January 28th, 2016, 11:29 AM   #4
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I'm one of those who has my drivers license in my back pocket and my proof of insurance is in the glove box of my truck.
I've not been stopped in a long, long time, but if I do, which will happen eventually, my plan is to keep my hands on the wheel until the officer gets to the window, then when he asks for my license and insurance, get them and hand him or her my permit as well and let the officer take it from there.
Of course, at the moment this is just theory, so YMMV!
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Old January 28th, 2016, 11:59 AM   #5
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In Maine it's courtesy to show the permit but one isn't required to. However with our new Constitutional carry law folks without a permit MUST immediately tell the officer.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 12:49 PM   #6
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Here in Virginia I'm not required to inform, but I do and they appreciate it. They few times I've gotten pulled over when they ask for my license and registration, I say "I would also like to inform you that I have a CHP and I am carrying." Sometimes they ask where the pistol is, sometimes they say "ok that's fine".

I honestly believe being legally armed has gotten me off of a few tickets. Most police officers support the 2nd amendment and seem to have a higher level of respect for legally armed citizens.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 01:58 PM   #7
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I'm a former LEO. I always appreciated the disclosure to a weapon at a traffic stop. If you're telling me you have a concealed weapon in the vehicle and a CCW permit, In my mind you're not hiding anything. In Virginia, we know you have a CCW as soon as we run your registration so tell me usually put me at ease. You NEVER want to reach for your wallet or registration and have the officer see a weapon.......you may get pulled out and proned.......

I always disclose the fact that I'm carrying when I'm in a vehicle that's been pulled over. To me it's just common courtesy. Just make sure you know the local laws and comply.....
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"SOME" say if they see an unknown weapon on you, that Mr. Taser is going to bite you.
Those "SOME" have no business wearing a badge. Merely noting that someone carries a firearm is no justification to taser or provoke any other kind of physical action. If I did that to someone simply because they printed or leaned over exposing their carry gun I'd be rightfully arrested for assault. LEOs are not above the same laws as the rest of us and are in fact held to a higher standard.

Not calling BS on the post, just saying "those" who say that are talking smack.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 03:51 PM   #9
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Required or not, I ALWAYS make it a point to disclose the fact that I have a permit and am armed, as soon as the officer approaches the window. In every case I have been thanked.
At one time, when I had a accident, the officer ask if I minded if he took the weapon while he investigated the accident. I told him no and turned so that he could remove the weapon from me. When it was over, he returned the weapon unloaded and a plastic bag with the ammo. I under stand completely, given present day circumstances.
At another time I had the officer thank me for carrying!
Ya never know, but better safe than sorry.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 03:51 PM   #10
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The last time I got pulled over, I had my wallet out of my pocket, in my hand and both hands on the wheel by the time the officer got to my window.
When I handed him my DL, I also handed him my CHL. He simply asked if I had 'it' on me and I told him where on my body it was.

At that point, he asked me to keep it where it was, we proceeded with business and he let me off with a warning.
No Big Deal (unless you make it into one).
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Old January 29th, 2016, 10:44 AM   #11
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Those "SOME" have no business wearing a badge. Merely noting that someone carries a firearm is no justification to taser or provoke any other kind of physical action. If I did that to someone simply because they printed or leaned over exposing their carry gun I'd be rightfully arrested for assault. LEOs are not above the same laws as the rest of us and are in fact held to a higher standard.

Not calling BS on the post, just saying "those" who say that are talking smack.
The KEY word is/WAS UNKNOWN. You should always identify that you have a carry permit and carrying when dealing with any LEO and get it (A potential problem), in the open. ESPECIALLY the way things are now. That takes away any printing or over exposing problem the officer might unknowingly run across. If you are legal and upfront telling the officer, there isn't going to be a problem.

Two of the three larger cities I grew up around were as about as safe to live as you could get. THEN "some folks" got a wild hair and thought they/we should be more diversified to catch up with the "rest of the word" ?!?!?! For some odd reason, NOW they can't figure out why the crime rates have climbed and suddenly the drive by shootings are almost everyday occurrences, places you don't want to walk at night !?!?!?! Not to mention it's spreading into the smaller towns. Welfare and drug problems rising....
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Old January 29th, 2016, 01:27 PM   #12
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Concealed carry is legal in many places and failure to announce to every cop you encounter that you're carrying is NOT a crime nor a violent/threatening action. If you want to do that, it is your choice and in some locations is required during a traffic stop. Failure to do so when NOT required is not justification for a tazing, body slam or anything else.
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In Pa. you are not required to disclose you have a CCW or a firearm in the vehicle. That's the way IO operate. Within the law. Doing more makes more work for the officer and me.
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FWIW, I have never gotten ticketed, just warned, once the officer discovered that I was a permit holder and armed. Locally it seems as though they think of us as their backup... and they'd be right. Of course that's no defense in court if ticketed. One doesn't flaunt it.
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After talking to my dad and hearing a couple of his stories about being pulled over, i'd like to pass on the knowledge of it being a bad idea to store your gun in your glove compartment if that is also where your registration and proof of insurance are. It just makes for a bad situation since cops generally want to see that information, but not want you reaching anywhere near your gun.
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