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This is a discussion on carry ammo? within the MP SHIELD Pistols forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; No problem bud. I would use federal hst but no one around here has it. I guess I'm going to have to order it....


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Old February 29th, 2016, 09:21 PM   #16
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No problem bud. I would use federal hst but no one around here has it. I guess I'm going to have to order it.
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Old March 1st, 2016, 08:36 AM   #17
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Any of this Guy's recommendations are good!

Service Pistol Ammo Recommendations
DocGKR has a more recent update at https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....f-Defense-Ammo
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Old March 1st, 2016, 10:55 AM   #18
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What a shame that he doesn't state whether or not the bullets were tested out of short barrels. Barrel length makes a big difference in velocity and that influences expansion. Especially in .45 ACP (which is all I was interested in at the time of my testing 8+ years ago), but possibly in other cartridges as well.

He does give velocity and that's great for those of us with chronographs, but many folks just use ammo and aren't "into it" to that degree.

Or maybe I missed something?
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Old March 1st, 2016, 12:53 PM   #19
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Thanks Benny! Updated my info!
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Old March 1st, 2016, 03:20 PM   #20
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I use corbon DPX 115gr +p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVq5OO0TVMM

I also have the corbon 115gr+p JHP Self Defense... but i prefer the dpx after watching tests.


my bedside pistol has Winchester Ranger-T 165 gr 40 cal JHP that a cop friend gave me after he left the force.

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Old March 2nd, 2016, 10:44 AM   #21
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Federal HST 124gr. (9mm Shield) seems the most available. Fiocci 147gr tested best but never seen any.
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 04:59 PM   #22
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I use corbon DPX 115gr +p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVq5OO0TVMM

I also have the corbon 115gr+p JHP Self Defense... but i prefer the dpx after watching tests.


my bedside pistol has Winchester Ranger-T 165 gr 40 cal JHP that a cop friend gave me after he left the force.
It is one of two or three suitable back ups, on occasion,cabelas has it in stock, if not and you can order it for delivery to a store on backorder and just be patient.it is also usually lower cost than other places

NEW FOLLOW-UP: I took the best to the range and in my shield in my hands , the HST 147 gr regular pressure was the most accurate. I got a 10 shot 2" group at 10 yards. far and away the best I have shot so far with my pistol. It is pretty much unobtainium, so put it on back order and go have a soda.

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Old March 2nd, 2016, 05:04 PM   #23
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Federal HST 124gr JHP in all of my 9mm's. Winchester PDX-1 in my .45
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Old March 3rd, 2016, 01:42 PM   #24
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Another HST 124gr user. although I like the 147 as well, it just hits a tad high.
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Old October 26th, 2016, 07:32 PM   #25
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http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self...llistic-tests/

For your reading enjoyment.

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Old November 8th, 2016, 09:21 PM   #26
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I don't own a Shield, but one thing you will want to keep in mind is, due to the compact size of the barrel on the Shield, as well as, pocket pistols in general, not all ammo is a good choice.

It's not as simple as, just buying whatever and using it in terms of self defense ammo. FMJ do not apply to this, thus you can use what you like. But the problem with certain hollow point's and pocket pistol barrel's, is that certain rounds do not get enough velocity to expand.

You will need to research ballistics of the rounds your thinking of buying, as they pertain from the use out of a pistol that has barrel specs close to that of the Shield.

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Old November 9th, 2016, 03:09 AM   #27
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I've always been somewhat of a rebel so I carry multiple types of bullets in my 10 round Shield 9 magazine (Magguts 2+). I generally have three 124 XTP's on top then two 147 XTP's, two 124 RN's and three 147 RN's at the bottom in the same magazine. I leave it up to a potential bad guy to sort it out.
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Old November 9th, 2016, 12:26 PM   #28
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Check out this review, recommended for short barrel pistols:
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Old November 12th, 2016, 03:59 PM   #29
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I submit for your consideration the Winchester 147 gr Train and Defend, Defend version "D". I've run about 500 of the "train" version with GREAT results. I finally found the defend in Walmart of all places. The Defend "D" version is the hollow point. The "T" train version is FMJ, but both perform identically on paper


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Old November 14th, 2016, 10:55 PM   #30
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If your intent is to have your attacker eventually bleed out, while they continue their attack, then use Ball ammo. If you're concerned about the bullet going through your target and injuring others, upgrade to a hollow point. But for a hollow point to be effective, it still needs to penetrate sufficiently before coming to a stop.

That's where it gets tricky, as your choice of hollow point needs to reliably expand at lower "short barrel" velocities and penetrate sufficiently to interrupt the CNS. Only a couple loadings are specifically designed for this eventuality, and the best of those is Speer Gold Dot "Short Barrel". That said, we use Federal HST 165/180 gr. 40S&W in all our defensive pistols except our 9mm Shield, which gets the Speer "Short Barrel" mentioned above. As a side note, the difference in velocity of heavier bullets from a shorter barrel may have a less deleterious effect on expansion and penetration than more velocity dependent lighter bullets, which some folks believe makes the 230 gr. .45 ACP hollow point a good choice for a short barrel pistol.

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