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Old July 23rd, 2016, 03:19 AM   #16
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Blackpoint Leather wing. Love, almost as much as the Mini Wing...

Abd yeah, the string holster is an old German secret police trick, WWII era. Also for a gun with a thumb safety, and ONLY for IWB. But ill admit to having used one on an Ultra framed 1911 for deep concealment. The point of the holster was to be able to ditch it if the use of a firearm was necessary, but you needed to dump the gun quickly and not look like you were just carrying (i.e. a holster but no gun equalz guilty!). It allowed the Nazis to blend back in to general population and escape the area. All that to say, sure it works. But these are different times....
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Old July 23rd, 2016, 11:59 AM   #17
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No joke.

It's just training. The idea was given to me from a LEO many years ago who had to have a minimalist holster for his undercover job. I told the OP that it had no trigger cover going in, he wanted pix, don't blame me. I supplied what he wanted. I fully described it going in. It works but one needs to be up to it's use. One needs to be painfully self aware and not BS oneself to use it. Armchair commandos need not apply. He wanted close and such. That it is. He has the freedom to use it or not as he chooses. Clearly one needs to train to not draw from the loop with the trigger finger, and to know ones clothing.

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I used it for years with a 1911 (not the one pictured) and another shorter one with a "belly gun". If you can't employ it safely just leave it alone. Be honest with yourself and your capabilities.

Or I could have been PC and just mentally flipped his request off and stayed with the flock. Frankly I don't give a rats a$$ if he uses it or not. I presented something that I know works and have used, and I don't care if it meets with majority approval or not.

Want a trigger "cover"? Just use it IWB and train to keep ones finger out of the belt. It works that way as well, but I dislike IWB. Too, he didn't want IWB. It still requires training to put the trigger finger in the right spot on the frame either way it's used. If any holster is used in any other way the handgun should be left home.

An AD? Really? Just leave it alone and don't fiddle with it. On drawing it, all the forces are reverse of what's required to make it go bang. One needs to be aware of ones clothing, or that's how I see it.

Anyway. he has the info, he's free to accept or reject it.

Go ahead and flame. I'm wearing asbestos. I have experience with it and I know that it works. BTDT.
Brian, IMO that String holster is pretty cool ! I would not trust a cord but I can see that it works! But if I ever needed to carry and no holster around that gives me a option Thanks for the pic
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Blackpoint Leather wing. Love, almost as much as the Mini Wing...

Abd yeah, the string holster is an old German secret police trick, WWII era. Also for a gun with a thumb safety, and ONLY for IWB. But ill admit to having used one on an Ultra framed 1911 for deep concealment. The point of the holster was to be able to ditch it if the use of a firearm was necessary, but you needed to dump the gun quickly and not look like you were just carrying (i.e. a holster but no gun equalz guilty!). It allowed the Nazis to blend back in to general population and escape the area. All that to say, sure it works. But these are different times....
Legion, Nice history lesson,, I never heard of that before! Pretty cool.. I love WW2 History

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Need a REALLY CLOSE riding holster for deep concealment. Kydex or leather just has to be close riding and not too far below belt line so covered by short jacket.

Hopefully it doesn't take more than a week or two as I have a trip I'll need it for.

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Look at the Alien Gear Holster Concealed Carry Holsters - Alien Gear Holsters - Gun Holsters not sure how long they will take to ship but some models are ready to ship now!
Also look on E Bay for a AG clone I would assume they should fit close to the same Just a thought.. FYI I like my AG s
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I had an Alien Gear OWB and had to send it back. they use a universal back plate on their holsters and with the Shield there is very little clearance under the trigger guard, no room to draw, I was literally cutting my index finger with it.
this is what prompted me to try the Flex.
They have a 2nd OWB model now , I have not looked at that but with a Shield their original was not great.

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Old August 4th, 2016, 03:22 AM   #22
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I often carry my Shield in a Galco Stinger. It fits tight to the body and conceals well under a golf shirt. My only complaint is that it slides on my belt. I have a large belly and my belt has a tendency to slip under my gut giving the belt a downward slant and the Stinger then slides forward. It's not a big problem but I need to find a way to tighten the belt loop on the holster. I have a Safariland retention holster, can't remember the model right now, that I really like except that it doesn't carry nearly as close as the Stinger. If I carry IWB I have a N82 that I really like.

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Probably too late to answer the OP's request, but my Desantis Mini Scabbard carries my shield very close to my waist & conceals nicely under a t-shirt.
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Txbirddog, I am curious what you eventually bought. I am slowly accumulating a collection of holsters and just recently purchased a Desantis Mini Scabbard that I really like. Bumpas also recommended that holster. It is very similar to the Galco Stinger but so far it does not slide on my belt like the Stinger.

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I never suggest wearing a holster with NO trigger guard cover. I really hope the description and photo were a joke.
You'd be just as well off tucking it in your belt.
I agree. Cover that trigger. No professional or trainer would carry without trigger cover.
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I never suggest wearing a holster with NO trigger guard cover. I really hope the description and photo were a joke.
You'd be just as well off tucking it in your belt.
I agree. Cover that trigger. No professional or trainer would carry without trigger cover.
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Old January 9th, 2017, 06:07 PM   #29
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Txbirddog, I am curious what you eventually bought. I am slowly accumulating a collection of holsters and just recently purchased a Desantis Mini Scabbard that I really like. Bumpas also recommended that holster. It is very similar to the Galco Stinger but so far it does not slide on my belt like the Stinger.

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Bought a pancake style off eBay. Nice holster and took care of immediate need but it's retention is a STRONG pull. Back in the market and will probably get a
KT Gunfighter. I have one for my SIG 320 and absolutely love it. Only takes 2 weeks as well.

S&W M&P Shield KYDEX holster
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Ridiculous...............
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