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Pre Travel Fix

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Old November 17th, 2016, 12:49 PM   #1
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Pre Travel Fix

I installed the Apex kit but the pre travel is a real problem for me, I'm use to Wilson 1911. So i've come up with a solution that seems to work just fine. I used the stock trigger for the experiment and will mod the Apex trigger later.

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You will need to trim the trigger safety blade and the end of the trigger bar or the safety won't engage (manual safety model).

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Old November 17th, 2016, 04:00 PM   #2
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It's really hard to match a single action pistols capability and performance with modification, to any striker fired pistol. A long time ago I shot Bullseye pistol competition and in 1970 I bought a brand new series 70 Colt Gold Cup, I didn't have any way to measure the trigger pull at the time, but I would guess that out of the box the trigger pull was about 1 tp 1 1/2 pounds, this was before their lawyers got involved, and incredibly crisp, can't match that with a striker fired pistol..
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Old November 17th, 2016, 05:15 PM   #3
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It might not be possible to match a striker fired pistol to a 1911, but the Apex FSS Trigger Kit sure does come close!
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Old November 17th, 2016, 07:11 PM   #4
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No amount of mods on the shield will equal a 1911. My goal was to improve the shield trigger with much less pre travel and little over travel. I think I am there.

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Old November 19th, 2016, 06:27 PM   #5
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Nice I did something like that on mine. Took a little material off of the safety to get the trigger back further and still have the safety work.
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Old November 21st, 2016, 11:55 AM   #6
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It might not be possible to match a striker fired pistol to a 1911, but the Apex FSS Trigger Kit sure does come close!
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According to Apex the FSS trigger does not work on the shield. Do you have experience otherwise? That would be nice if it does works.

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Old February 18th, 2017, 10:51 AM   #7
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The total trigger travel on my Shield is .170 inch. I installed the Apex kit with aluminum trigger, a set screw in the trigger to take up pre travel. The over travel was a pain to remove. Sure like the PC core over travel set up.

I also just got a M&P CORE PC 9 mm. And did the set screw trigger trick and the total travel is .155 " after trigger safety movement taken up, using stock parts. I like the Apex trigger much better than M&P hinged. I also mounted a Vortex Rasor red dot 6 moa.

I'm hooked on the M&P line.

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Old February 19th, 2017, 06:49 PM   #8
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What's the problem with pre-travel? I cut my teeth shooting lot's of 1911's and still have one, I just take up the slack to the pressure wall, the slack is a nice safety feature IMO.
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I could get use to the pre travel with more trigger time but prefer not to since the fix was relatively simple. Over travel,imho, can mess up accuracy. I have the green laser on the shield and during dry Fire excersise there is noticeable dot movement with excessive over travel but not with zero over travel.

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Old February 21st, 2017, 05:38 PM   #10
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I could get use to the pre travel with more trigger time but prefer not to since the fix was relatively simple. Over travel,imho, can mess up accuracy. I have the green laser on the shield and during dry Fire excersise there is noticeable dot movement with excessive over travel but not with zero over travel.

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I'd like to have a little less over-travel, I wish that all triggers had adjustments like a 1911 does for that... One of these days maybe I'll toss an APEX kit in my M&P's.... Never gonna be as good as the 1911 though however, I really like having 18 rounds on tap for SD vs. 9 with a 9mm 1911...
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