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Performance Center Trigger upgrade? Polishing internals?

This is a discussion on Performance Center Trigger upgrade? Polishing internals? within the MP SHIELD Pistols forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; Originally Posted by Cole PaPow, Thanks for the greeting! I guess I should detail a little more of my handgun experience. I basically just shot ...


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Old December 27th, 2016, 08:01 AM   #16
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Thanks for the greeting! I guess I should detail a little more of my handgun experience. I basically just shot at cans and targets occasionally over the years, but never at a proficient level like hickok45 can shoot, I was never that good at shooting targets fast. I have really good aim, breathing, and trigger finger control from years of deer hunting with rifles so I could probably give him a run for his money on the gong, lol. I'm able to shoot a good group under ideal circumstances, but I want to get as good as he is.

I guess I should probably do a search for a good training facility, shouldn't be hard because I'm in Atlanta, GA and there's a lot of stuff to do down here.

I actually already ordered a cheap sight pusher off eBay last night. I'd already heard about the slide cracking on a Shield, but that was a good reminder, I'll definitely keep that in mind and probably put the slide in the freezer before trying to push the sight out. I know I won't force anything, it's not worth a new slide. One of the reviewers said it worked on the Shield so I'll see what it looks like when it arrives and go from there.

Thanks for the help and the reminder about the slide!

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Spray the sights with a good penetrating oil the night before you try to push them off the gun.
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Old December 27th, 2016, 09:09 AM   #17
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The sights on these firearms can be a @%^& to move. I paid someone with a real nice pusher $20 to move mine. I find that using more of a tip of the finger on the trigger worked better for me as far as accuracy. I use your third sight pic.
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PaPow,

Will do, thanks for the tip!
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berettabone,

Thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind when at the range. I may purchase an Apex flat face trigger in the future to create a little more room for my index finger to extend, naturally bringing the finger tip up on the trigger.

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Old December 28th, 2016, 06:30 AM   #20
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Did you only replace the striker block? If so, how's the trigger pull weight before and after?
The trigger will feel smoother, but pull weight stays the same unless you change the trigger spring. Even if you install the APEX blocker, polish it and remove the step a little bit. Do NOT remove material from the top, just polish down the step just before the top. Huge difference...! I put the blockers in a lathe, stone the leading edge, then polish to finish. Flitz polish works good. Practice with your old one first. You want a nice round finish when your done. Dont forget to polish the hole where the blocker sits... that hole is the key to a nicer feeling trigger when your done. If you look in the hole, i`m sure you`ll see that its pretty rough bored. Dont spend to much time inside removing material, it will ruin the trigger job if you do. It just needs to be cleaned up, not re-bored, so to speak.
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Cool, thanks for the instruction, I'm sure it will turn out nice. I'm assuming the trigger spring you spoke of changing out is the one that comes in the Apex kit? Pretty sure lighter springs aren't available separately, right?
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Cool, thanks for the instruction, I'm sure it will turn out nice. I'm assuming the trigger spring you spoke of changing out is the one that comes in the Apex kit? Pretty sure lighter springs aren't available separately, right?
If you change out the OEM trigger spring with the APEX trigger spring kit, (assuming your installing the APEX trigger too), your trigger pull will be heavier with the apex spring. I would put the apex kit in, but leave the OEM trigger spring if you want a lighter pull trigger. If this is an EDC gun, i would go with the apex trigger spring when you install their kit. To light of a EDC gun trigger spring might get you in trouble being to light. Go with what you are comfortable with carrying. My advice, heavier is better with EDC guns.
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Thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind when at the range. I may purchase an Apex flat face trigger in the future to create a little more room for my index finger to extend, naturally bringing the finger tip up on the trigger.

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Personally, I would leave the trigger alone, and practice with the factory trigger. IMHO, it's not worth spending lots of money on a $400 firearm. Changing the trigger will not help you extend your trigger finger. It's still the same distance. I am most familiar with da/sa firearms, so for me, it was also a learning curve with the M&P triggers. Luckily, I got a smooth one. I am still getting used to it. If I get frustrated, I have an HK that shoots like a dream. I also have another striker fired firearm that has one of the best triggers on the planet. I use that for comparison shooting. After all, the M&P is still a $400 gun. I must admit that my HK compact with Big Dots outshoots the M&P by such a wide margin. My M&P is my beater gun.
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Personally, I would leave the trigger alone, and practice with the factory trigger. IMHO, it's not worth spending lots of money on a $400 firearm. Changing the trigger will not help you extend your trigger finger. It's still the same distance. I am most familiar with da/sa firearms, so for me, it was also a learning curve with the M&P triggers. Luckily, I got a smooth one. I am still getting used to it. If I get frustrated, I have an HK that shoots like a dream. I also have another striker fired firearm that has one of the best triggers on the planet. I use that for comparison shooting. After all, the M&P is still a $400 gun. I must admit that my HK compact with Big Dots outshoots the M&P by such a wide margin. My M&P is my beater gun.
I think he`s looking more for where his finger is on the the trigger more than anything else. But your advice is spot on about just getting use to the OEM trigger.
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Rick, you got any pics of your sight pusher...?

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Never mind, i found their website...thanks buddie
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Did you only replace the striker block? If so, how's the trigger pull weight before and after?
Yes.

The trigger pull weight with the PC sear was decent, but the takeup was very gritty. That's why I installed the Apex striker block.

On my other carry M&P's; I installed both the striker block and sear.

I keep the stock trigger return spring, as that provides a lighter pull than using their DCAEK, and costs less.

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